I would invest in a car company committed to making all mechanical cars, zero electronics
The opposite of a Tesla
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Would you make an exception to spark plugs and starting motor and lights and the radio? 😜
Yes spark plugs and lights, radio no because it can be used to track you I think
If it is an old radio, and an old CB radio, no way to track you. Old non-traceable technology.
Diesel and crank start or push start. No radio.
Same. I don't want a smart phone with wheels.
Yes
Basically a Geo Metro. I'd buy it so fast.
Best fukin car ever
Tesla=Bitcoin
Mechanical=Ethereum
Go to the future not the past. On some things…
I think you have the the wrong way round. I intuitively see bitcoin as a mechanical car and etherium as electronics filled cars we see more and more of today.
New isn’t always better.
You are right. Eth does have all of the bells and whistles doesn’t it.
Yep. Naturally aspirated, no injection, no fly by wire throttle or steering, no electronic ignition, and capable of running completely dark with no headlights, tail lights or running lights because YOU choose to.
The Model T had headlights. Just not electrical...
Yeah I am mainly hearkening back to the day where you could turn off all the lights and run dark if you needed to be stealthy. Nowadays you can’t creep into your hunting camp without it looking like the second coming of Christ lol
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like the mechanical watch boom after the apple watch..
Full analog. That feeling of rolling up/down the window 💦
Had this exact same thought recently. There seems to be growing demand for this. I’d love to see a car manufacturer offer a model stripped of all the unnecessary tech and make a simple, reliable, and affordable car
Unfortunately in the US the amount of mandatory safety features precludes this at scale.
In #Australia, from this year its illegal to sell a new car without a remote kill switch entrusted to the government
Mad Max is going to be super boring!
For real? Who are the people who watch Equilibrium or read 1984 and think to themselves, I want to be the villains.
If I'm ever forced to buy a 2025+, rodents are going to chew off the little ECU antenna.
Sad :p
Re Mad Max though, my BIL has an acre of vintage cars in need of modifications. And crossbows :)
IKR...
I would be okay with minimal electronics. By today's standard, minimal would be practically none.
What this will likely look like if it happens is a super cheap car that just happens to have minimal electronics to save cost. That's the only way I see the trend reversing at this point.
Electric windows, locks, and a Bluetooth stereo would be okay.
Everything that's wrong with modern cars
Does steam powered count? I bet materials science advancements could enable us to make some wicked steam powered vehicles
What about an Open-source electronic car?
Why would it need to be open source?
Electricity+ electric motor= go
No code needed
Nice call shatk, I'm also looking for a company that builds 4k dumb tvs worldwide.
I would invest in a car company committed to making all mechanical cars, zero electronics
The opposite of a Tesla
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this seems promising
modular, hella simple car . We'll see if it ever comes to existence and if its not bullshit.
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It’s electric..,
i know, but it's at least a step in the opposite direction of tesla from what I read
Electric motor =/= computerised
There is a difference.
The first cars were electric, hundred years before computers were invented
You mean, actual cars and not computers on wheels? What a novel thought.
My wife and I were talking about this a couple weeks ago.
Do let me know when you find it, I’m in
I would like to keep fuel injection though...
i did make a small career on reverse engineering ECM firmware though. It's not that bad on the old stuff. Would be nice if they opened things up a bit.
there are fully open source engine and transmission management systems, they'd just need to be adopted.
And you can only pay for it using seashells, none of this magic Internet money 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Apart from the EMFs emitted by Teslas, the last thing anyone needs is a car that can be hacked or one that can be remotely controlled
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Get a soviet era Lada Niva and be done woth it. You know it's going to last the next 200 years anyway
And it’s better than 90% of today’s SUVs
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Also full self driving, sustainable (runs off of grass), and if you have two, they will keep making more of themselesves for you forever.
I would buy an electric car if the motor and lights were the only electronics.
Elon Musk only bought Tesla because he wanted to ruin electric cars.
Me too
they already existed and I think there are still a few in museums or garages
ECU needs to be removed not electronics EV's will win. Batteries will win. Solar will win.
The return of the carburetor
I don't care if its EV or not, I want a fully open source car. Where every component can be rebuilt anywhere! Even the software!
FOSS EV FTW
Are you sure you need a car with software?
EFI, Dashboard, entertainment, navigation etc. Don't NEED it, but nice to have
Hm no electrics...
Hard but not impossible. Sturdy old Diesel engine.
Electric lights would be nice though, maybe even an optional starter.
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The new flex in the coming years will be vehicles like this.
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And non-retarded door handles plz
Model T?
1000?
How many?
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Yes!
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I don’t understand why no entrepreneur has taken advantage of this market
Because it wouldn’t be street legal
Why not? There are old cars without any of that stuff
New cars have to pass homologation and meet regulatory targets to be deemed street legal.
Why can’t a new car pass these “standards” and be private?
Here’s an intro for you. We will never be able to buy a new small, simple, affordable car in the US again
Me too. I would actually like it to be electric, though. But with as little electronics as possible. A simple electric, maybe modular, drive chain ought to be possible to repair even for someone like me who hates car repair.
we need an open source toyota hilux!
I fear the day where I move from inserting a key into the ignition to a push to start
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LOL. I was literally thinking this today.
Back to basics. Wind up windows, no fluff, just a utility tool.
Make them cheap enough, easy to work on, and cheap parts for maint, and they would sell well IMO.
We need to get these rolled out worldwide asap
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I would invest in a car company committed to making all mechanical cars, zero electronics
The opposite of a Tesla
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somehow this kept running as a background process in my mind over night and i had to do some digging
there was decent open source car movement in 2010s but most of it seems dead now.
first we need to establish what are we trying to solve - transportation from point a to point b (a functional vehicle) or compliance with state laws and regulations to make a "road certified" car which is likely where a lot of the cost will come from.
EVs are in the lead here due to their simplicity with order of magnitude less parts which means less precision manufacturing etc.
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i've also done some sleuthing to acquire tabby and rally fighter cad files just in case i live forever and find myself with an empty garage and motivation to build one, in case people want i can upload them somewhere
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My there will be signs is basically a refurbished diesel jeep from the 70s.
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When we go to the meetup, I'll pick you up in the jeep but make sure you've got your nurse with you.
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The interior will be spray cleanable, no worries, I got you.
I got a 90 series (1996) landcruiser that is full mechanical (except the efi) and a model y. No complaints about either of them.