Damn it, jack.
How could you!
Ha
Thanks for all you do
@jack
I like it
i canโt accept. how do u see a whole bitcoin? i really wanna know.
or lets just do-away with 100,000,000 altogether? asking
it only feels like restart for those who didnโt buy bitcoin at a dollar.
OR u must be thinking a dollar is a dollar whether its 100 thousand or just 2. shouldnโt change names just because we want fractionalize it.
damn u got me thinking. i donโt wanna like it so stop. lol.
What's a bitcoins? Makes no sense.
*sats
Sats are sats. We also have a great symbol for it, although not in unicode yet.
If โฟ is sats, how do you type 100m sats (1 Bitcoin)?
Or is the idea to completely ditch the 100m number and reactor everything as sats/โฟ?
yea but that doesn't look like anything to anybody
Universal kebab sign.
BTC
Why is it still sats in cash app?
good symbol
Bitpence or something like that, with the symbol, maybe. But we're not rebranding โ/21M.

Bruh you just missed a teaching opportunity for 4 million businesses. Sats has been established for awhile now. wtf.
vertical line will be better
It looks like doner kebab to me. ๐
It's a cool symbol, but the one
@vinney...axkl is using is easier to write. I like that one more.
no. samekh
Except they're not Bitcoins.
Lemme ask you is there $100 in 1 Dollar?
Sats are the standard. Change it back and keep this train going. No one asked for this. No one uses this. Just you. You just unilaterally decided it. I'm not saying you don't have the right. It's your company. By all means do as you please. But this is confusing as hell and does not clarify or distinguish anything.
And a lower case b with a squiggle up top does? That's a very poor argument to make. No currency symbol looks like anything to anyone until they're told what it is.
It also has the advantage of being in the available unicode set on most machines (because it's a symbol for the Thai Baht, which curiously is divided into 100 "satang"...)
The original โฟ started off as an appropriation of the เธฟ until a proposal was accepted to add โฟ to unicode:

So we'd just be repeating this process for the lowercase for sats :)
The Thai Baht เธฟ was originally used as the Bitcoin symbol until โฟ was added to Unicode.
We can repeat a similar process, temporarily appropriating ฦ until Unicode adds a lowercase b with a vertical stroke.
vinney...axkl
It also has the advantage of being in the available unicode set on most machines (because it's a symbol for the Thai Baht, which curiously is divided into 100 "satang"...)
The original โฟ started off as an appropriation of the เธฟ until a proposal was accepted to add โฟ to unicode:

So we'd just be repeating this process for the lowercase for sats :)
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I accept calling them Bitcoin's if the network consensus updates to allow another division into another 100,000,000 pieces lol.
Wait I got my facts a bit wrong. the ฦ is not associated with the baht. but the overall point remains:
We use ฦ until Unicode adds a "b" with vertical bar, like it did for โฟ
Besides, Ethereum already uses the uppercase Greek letter Xi, ฮ, for Ether
๐ค maybe Satoshi was/is Thai... No one ever suspects the Thai... Historically friendly with Japan, too. Hmm. Hmmmmmm ๐ค
Or we could just use the miscellaneous symbol that a lot of people already use for sats and already exists in Unicode U+2BD2 ⯒
$ats would look stupid
Tomato ๐
tomato ๐
that character didn't render in amethyst. what is it?
How about if people call
1 SAT = 1 Bitcoin
1 sat = 1 square bitcoin = 0.00000001 bitcoin
โฏ
Will 0.1 โฟ be enough to retire in? Iโm confused
Definitely a better option.
vinney...axkl
Besides, Ethereum already uses the uppercase Greek letter Xi, ฮ, for Ether
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oh, that's lovely
Cash App begs to differ...

Whats wrong with ไธฐ
1. wtf is that thing - it has no connection to any existing symbols or semantics
2. ether already uses it
3. a lowercase "b" is clearly related to the uppercase "B" and makes everyone happy - the people who want the "B" in there can compromise, and the people who want "sats" can be happy we're not using the "B" and can adjust to "b" meaning "sats"
People are already very, very accustomed to thinking in terms of Dollars and Cents. They can easily swap in whole "bitcoin" for "dollar" and "sats" for cents. Giving them symbols that are obvious (a lowercase "b" seems like a "little version" of the uppercase "B" they've seen everywhere) seems like a much friendlier ramp from stuff they're used to than some bizarre tree-looking thing. Bitcoin is weird enough and has enough new concepts as is.
I guess in a way you lowercase b idea is easy to understand and adopt, but the sat symbol on multiple different services is a vertical line with 3 horizontal lines going though it. But you've converted me ๐
I know that three horizontal line thing is pretty ubiquitous. We'll have to smash it together, now that you're converted โ
Honor Satoshi: Sats are the standard.
This argument doesn't make sense in a sea of counterexamples.
what makes that symbol the sat symbol?
It was somehow upvoted on Twitter quite a bit. All I know. I liked it until the b. Now I'm a b maxi
right, its just "the thing" because people liked it. they might also like the "b" - maybe more?
honestly, the "call sats 'bitcoin'" crowd is powerful and influential (especially with Square now) so just practically an alternative proposal that is going to have a chance can't ignore their success and try to do something else entirely - it probably needs to be a kind of concilitory response to the ground they've already gained. hence the 'b'.
"we get it, you're winning. will you compromise and at least just not use the uppercase 'B'? we can agree to that compromise". its like that.
2. ETH uses ฮ . the similarity to the ultimate shitcoin is too much for me
3. and this 'sats symbol' isn't a made up convention? it's all made up, we're making it all up. we've got a chance to make something up that a wider audience will be able to recognize.
you really don't think that lowercasing a subunit doesn't have an immediate rationale to it, even for the uninitiated?
besides, the convention isn't *entirely* novel:
in computing, bytes are B, bits are b.
chemistry: m vs M (molal vs molar concentration)
math: p vs P (probability value vs measure)
I thought the ฯ are bitcoin (lol I have lightning bolt saved as keyboard thing for word sats) thing was just a troll. It's silly imo, but don't care too much. I like bits too, since playing a little poker recently where that denomination of chips made the most sense.
The kebab symbol is overly complex and probably got upvoted because it felt like more impact per vote. Who wants to vote for boring "b"
I agree with all this. (probably even including the "bits" bit, but i'm still figuring that one out).
I'm just saying if we're making it all up, you can't pretend like lower casing is some kind of well-known convention for currency subunits, when it really isn't. I get the rationalle of it, but it's not convincing.
A b will cause more confusion, because it's unclear what it stands for? "Bits"? "Bats"?
Sats are absolutely not bitcoins (boo BIP-177 ๐), and the symbol for it shouldn't even hint that way.
Besides, we have a symbol for sats, and it's an interesting, beautiful, meaningful and unique one. ๐
Well we definitely agree that sats are not bitcoins :)
me no wait til bitcoin $.001 agin so me buy 62.15 an be rich. den sell to 21M-coiners for hundy tousand eech! dey so stoopid.
U need embrace future, 21M-coiner. 100000000:1 split make me rich. You no stop Jack. he new but he here to save bitcoin. feed world wit 1 pizza!
yes. jack make so evy1 in erth hole-coiner. we all rich now. genius make 100000000 to 1 split. moon! lambo soon!
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stop try make cents, 21M-coiner! jack smarter you. he make me rich. me buy 62.15 bitcoin for $.001 eech n sell to sum 21M-coiners for hundy tousan. dey so stoopid.
sats ded. me rich now. hav 200 bitcoin. moon-lambo-botes-hose.
no be cute. 2.1 quadilon bitcoin now!
100m now MEGGA-Bitcoin! MEGGA-pizza hav 100m slices, feed erth! we all rich now! thank jack 4 fix broken bitcoin!
u rong. sats ded. btc king. genus jack make enuff btc for all in erth to have 262,000 hole-coin. 2.1 quadilion! we all rich now! shut mouth. u no ruin 4 me.
#moon-lambo-botes-hose

jack do wut jack want. he new to btc and want fix. skware sell for better 2.1 quadilon btc, not weak 21 millon btc. bigger = gooder. then send to kashapp, den do agin! be rich! money-glitch for win!
no! genus jack kill sats! now mean more bitcoin. 2.1 quadilon! all ppl want be hole-coiner! thanx, jack!
bitcoin have army now! 2.1 quadilon strong! more = gooder! jack = genus!
now I hav 200 bitcoin! me rich!
have fun stay poor, 21M-coiner! ๐๐
Bitcoins... many, many bitcoins
Sats 4 ever!
You literally donโt explain what a Satoshi is anywhere in your FAQ.
The only place you mention a Satoshi is on the minimum withdrawal fee.
Youโre a $10B company.
An unpaid intern could run a single query on google analytics and give you this answer.
Yโall are high on your own farts over there and going to make 20-50 Bitcoin teams back track and update language because your team hasnโt done their job properly.
True story.
I didn't care. Then I lightly shook my head. Now I'm convinced this is just retarded.