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Why? I did the math recently and a reasonable guess for the damages that Gaza owes Israel for Oct 7th is ~$30k/Gazan โ€“ tens of billions of dollars. All of the real estate in Gaza is probably worth less than that: that works out to be $172/mยฒ. It'd be perfectly reasonable for Israel to just take all of Gaza in compensation and kick everyone out. Sending them all to Libya would be a very reasonable way to do this. The Gazan population clearly has an irrational hatred of Jews, they're extremely violent, and there is no path to fixing this problem. Trying peace and diplomacy got us Oct 7th. A perfectly valid alternative to this would be to cut all aid to Gaza and just wait for the population to starve to death. No-one owes them free food or supplies, and they can't feed themselves. They fucked up their economy through violence โ€“ no one owes them anything to fix that. Speaking of, you can solve a lot of problems that way: Yemen can rain missiles down on Israel and our shipping lanes in large part because western food aid is keeping 90% of their population alive. It's ridiculous that we're doing that. Also, cutting off all this suicidal aid to people who hate us would free up money to send to Ukraine, a population actually fighting for us.

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The IDF owes them nothing at all. Hamas is the government of Gaza, and it clearly has significant support among the population, particularly the wealthier segment who โ€“ if they disagreed โ€“ could just leave Gaza. Hell, Hamas got voted into power with a clear majority between them and even more extremist parties. Worse, Oct 7th was _not_ solely Hamas. Roughly half of the murders and kidnappings were by "ordinary" Gazans who just decided to join in. And again, we see that support in how โ€“ unlike WW2 โ€“ there's no examples of Gazans helping hostages escape. The onus was on Gazans as a whole to stop this violence rather than support it. They chose the latter. Germany paid huge sums for WW2 reparations, including wide scale confiscation of private property. Hopefully Russia will as well. And for that matter, Iran. Does Ukraine owe Russians anything for the large amount of Russian property destroyed and Russian "civilians" killed in the course of defending themselves? Of course not. Israel is no different.
The amount of projection I see in these arguments hurts my heart. Israel uses problem, reaction, solution to get the land it wants. Allow "terrorist" group to get power, act shocked when they do terrorist things (and most likely allowed to happen), take all the land. Then rebuild their temple- thats probably in the 10 year plan A 6 year old can understand this
Israel is the defender here, and a rare example of sanity in the Middle East. Jews are also at the top of the lost of valuable contributors to the US (and the west in general). There's very good reasons to want Israel to survive. Extremist Islam meanwhile is a serious threat to our way of life. Gaza being a very good example of that threat. Ukraine meanwhile is a very cheap way to keep Russia at bay. If Ukraine falls, Russia isn't going to stop there. And Russia itself is increasingly an example of extremist Islam...
... starve to death. @Peter Todd is still the molesting brezelbrain he always was. sick.
Peter Todd's avatar Peter Todd
Why? I did the math recently and a reasonable guess for the damages that Gaza owes Israel for Oct 7th is ~$30k/Gazan โ€“ tens of billions of dollars. All of the real estate in Gaza is probably worth less than that: that works out to be $172/mยฒ. It'd be perfectly reasonable for Israel to just take all of Gaza in compensation and kick everyone out. Sending them all to Libya would be a very reasonable way to do this. The Gazan population clearly has an irrational hatred of Jews, they're extremely violent, and there is no path to fixing this problem. Trying peace and diplomacy got us Oct 7th. A perfectly valid alternative to this would be to cut all aid to Gaza and just wait for the population to starve to death. No-one owes them free food or supplies, and they can't feed themselves. They fucked up their economy through violence โ€“ no one owes them anything to fix that. Speaking of, you can solve a lot of problems that way: Yemen can rain missiles down on Israel and our shipping lanes in large part because western food aid is keeping 90% of their population alive. It's ridiculous that we're doing that. Also, cutting off all this suicidal aid to people who hate us would free up money to send to Ukraine, a population actually fighting for us.
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What a fucking cunt.
Peter Todd's avatar Peter Todd
Why? I did the math recently and a reasonable guess for the damages that Gaza owes Israel for Oct 7th is ~$30k/Gazan โ€“ tens of billions of dollars. All of the real estate in Gaza is probably worth less than that: that works out to be $172/mยฒ. It'd be perfectly reasonable for Israel to just take all of Gaza in compensation and kick everyone out. Sending them all to Libya would be a very reasonable way to do this. The Gazan population clearly has an irrational hatred of Jews, they're extremely violent, and there is no path to fixing this problem. Trying peace and diplomacy got us Oct 7th. A perfectly valid alternative to this would be to cut all aid to Gaza and just wait for the population to starve to death. No-one owes them free food or supplies, and they can't feed themselves. They fucked up their economy through violence โ€“ no one owes them anything to fix that. Speaking of, you can solve a lot of problems that way: Yemen can rain missiles down on Israel and our shipping lanes in large part because western food aid is keeping 90% of their population alive. It's ridiculous that we're doing that. Also, cutting off all this suicidal aid to people who hate us would free up money to send to Ukraine, a population actually fighting for us.
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Dudes like this really need to run their mouth. Trust, you must come to Cape town next year for the Bitcoin conference and come say this here.๐Ÿคฃ i'd personally remove his jaw ๐ŸฅŠ
Peter Todd's avatar Peter Todd
Why? I did the math recently and a reasonable guess for the damages that Gaza owes Israel for Oct 7th is ~$30k/Gazan โ€“ tens of billions of dollars. All of the real estate in Gaza is probably worth less than that: that works out to be $172/mยฒ. It'd be perfectly reasonable for Israel to just take all of Gaza in compensation and kick everyone out. Sending them all to Libya would be a very reasonable way to do this. The Gazan population clearly has an irrational hatred of Jews, they're extremely violent, and there is no path to fixing this problem. Trying peace and diplomacy got us Oct 7th. A perfectly valid alternative to this would be to cut all aid to Gaza and just wait for the population to starve to death. No-one owes them free food or supplies, and they can't feed themselves. They fucked up their economy through violence โ€“ no one owes them anything to fix that. Speaking of, you can solve a lot of problems that way: Yemen can rain missiles down on Israel and our shipping lanes in large part because western food aid is keeping 90% of their population alive. It's ridiculous that we're doing that. Also, cutting off all this suicidal aid to people who hate us would free up money to send to Ukraine, a population actually fighting for us.
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This is one of the most insane things I've read on here.
Peter Todd's avatar Peter Todd
Why? I did the math recently and a reasonable guess for the damages that Gaza owes Israel for Oct 7th is ~$30k/Gazan โ€“ tens of billions of dollars. All of the real estate in Gaza is probably worth less than that: that works out to be $172/mยฒ. It'd be perfectly reasonable for Israel to just take all of Gaza in compensation and kick everyone out. Sending them all to Libya would be a very reasonable way to do this. The Gazan population clearly has an irrational hatred of Jews, they're extremely violent, and there is no path to fixing this problem. Trying peace and diplomacy got us Oct 7th. A perfectly valid alternative to this would be to cut all aid to Gaza and just wait for the population to starve to death. No-one owes them free food or supplies, and they can't feed themselves. They fucked up their economy through violence โ€“ no one owes them anything to fix that. Speaking of, you can solve a lot of problems that way: Yemen can rain missiles down on Israel and our shipping lanes in large part because western food aid is keeping 90% of their population alive. It's ridiculous that we're doing that. Also, cutting off all this suicidal aid to people who hate us would free up money to send to Ukraine, a population actually fighting for us.
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A bitcoin genius... who says these horrible Nazi things. Unbelievable. I'm stonished. Peter Todd genius of bitcoin but absolute racist and zero understanding of geopolitics. In fact, many people say that those who understand code don't understand everything else. Try to read what he wrote... but can you write about cruelties like that?? ๐Ÿ˜ฐ๐Ÿซฃ nevent1qqsqxktzutpp60zq8d287x0dhdlj0qw4qtq84u82khc3fjyqf2x4xecpz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcfexdtm
Measuring your life in USD is retarded. Measuring a populations lives in USD is evil.
Peter Todd's avatar Peter Todd
Why? I did the math recently and a reasonable guess for the damages that Gaza owes Israel for Oct 7th is ~$30k/Gazan โ€“ tens of billions of dollars. All of the real estate in Gaza is probably worth less than that: that works out to be $172/mยฒ. It'd be perfectly reasonable for Israel to just take all of Gaza in compensation and kick everyone out. Sending them all to Libya would be a very reasonable way to do this. The Gazan population clearly has an irrational hatred of Jews, they're extremely violent, and there is no path to fixing this problem. Trying peace and diplomacy got us Oct 7th. A perfectly valid alternative to this would be to cut all aid to Gaza and just wait for the population to starve to death. No-one owes them free food or supplies, and they can't feed themselves. They fucked up their economy through violence โ€“ no one owes them anything to fix that. Speaking of, you can solve a lot of problems that way: Yemen can rain missiles down on Israel and our shipping lanes in large part because western food aid is keeping 90% of their population alive. It's ridiculous that we're doing that. Also, cutting off all this suicidal aid to people who hate us would free up money to send to Ukraine, a population actually fighting for us.
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Are you retarded or just pretending? Do you actually think the entire population of Gaza perpetrated Oct.7, including women and children? Every nation on earth is controlled by demon worshipping criminal gangs who call themselves โ€œgovernmentโ€. It is the govt of Gaza (Hamas) who did this. Blame them, not the innocent children.
Hereโ€™s the thingโ€ฆ as a regular American does anyone really give a fuck about Israel or the Ukraine? Because I sure donโ€™t. The steel man for the Ukraine is that using the Ukraine as our new forever war post Afghanistan is somehow a โ€œgood dealโ€ for us because it bleeds Russia, allows us to update our military equipment and doesnโ€™t cost any American lives. IMO itโ€™s just another way for a transnational security elite to wash money out of the American tax base. The idea that Ukrainians are fighting for us is retarded. nevent1qqsqxktzutpp60zq8d287x0dhdlj0qw4qtq84u82khc3fjyqf2x4xecpz3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezummcw3ezuer9wcfexdtm
You are writing notes with a lot irrational points my friend. You say cut off food off of Gaza, letโ€™s see how long they survive, no one owes themโ€ฆ sure. When you say that, add to it, cut off Military and monetary US aid to Israel and letโ€™s see if itโ€™s a successful state or a failed state. We will do it at the same time, 3, 2, 1โ€ฆ
Hate to say it but my values don't seem to currently align with the values of core devs.
Peter Todd's avatar Peter Todd
Why? I did the math recently and a reasonable guess for the damages that Gaza owes Israel for Oct 7th is ~$30k/Gazan โ€“ tens of billions of dollars. All of the real estate in Gaza is probably worth less than that: that works out to be $172/mยฒ. It'd be perfectly reasonable for Israel to just take all of Gaza in compensation and kick everyone out. Sending them all to Libya would be a very reasonable way to do this. The Gazan population clearly has an irrational hatred of Jews, they're extremely violent, and there is no path to fixing this problem. Trying peace and diplomacy got us Oct 7th. A perfectly valid alternative to this would be to cut all aid to Gaza and just wait for the population to starve to death. No-one owes them free food or supplies, and they can't feed themselves. They fucked up their economy through violence โ€“ no one owes them anything to fix that. Speaking of, you can solve a lot of problems that way: Yemen can rain missiles down on Israel and our shipping lanes in large part because western food aid is keeping 90% of their population alive. It's ridiculous that we're doing that. Also, cutting off all this suicidal aid to people who hate us would free up money to send to Ukraine, a population actually fighting for us.
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