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Now @jack is pushing BIP-177 to change satoshis to bitcoin. Are these people crazy?! Turning 21 million bitcoin into 2.1 quadrillion “bitcoins” isn’t just bad branding—it completely nukes the most important meme in Bitcoin’s history. This isn’t just a bad idea. It’s a recipe for confusion, dilution, and long-term cultural fragmentation. We’ve spent 15 years building absolute clarity around one of the strongest memes in monetary history: 21 million Bitcoin. 100 million satoshis each. Simple. Elegant. Untouchable. And now, right on the edge of global adoption—now—they want to rewrite the script? This doesn’t feel like UX optimization. It feels like a narrative hijack. A subtle takeover—not of the protocol, but of how people think about Bitcoin. And that’s just as powerful. Maybe I’m paranoid. But changing the unit, the name, and the supply right before mass onboarding doesn’t just feel tone-deaf—it feels strategic. Like rewriting the map while millions are just beginning to find their way. I’ve never heard anything more short-sighted, more dangerous, or more fundamentally disconnected from what makes Bitcoin work. It’s not a UI bug. It’s a memetic monument. You don’t demolish it for clicks, smooth UX, or vanity campaigns. You protect it—because mass adoption is coming. And what people adopt must be the truth, not a convenient lie wrapped in “accessibility.” image

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Let's face it Jack wants to destroy the narrative so he can keep profiting from the fiat system. So sad they only care about themselves. No one of them gives a shit about freeing people from fiat slavery at all. They only want to enrich themselves.
I think we need a unit for 100 sats It is much simpler to think to spend about something worth 0.1 usd or 1 usd (in 5 years) than worth 100k usd or 0.1 cents I am not sure calling it bitcoin would be a problem. There would be 21 trillions bitcoins (at 100 sats a bitcoin) in line with US M2 now (and less us M2 tomorrow Satoshi (I know it is not an argument but it shows some people not hostile to Bitcoin or stupid) mentioned possibility of changing decimals for the unit
I haven't eaten in 3 days and talk to the universe. It told me some of you are really wrong about op_return and sats. (Fiatjaf is also wrong about NIP90). Some people want to inflict damage on stuff they should defend with their life instead. I said it and I'll say it again. You don't just go and fuck up Bitcoin. It's too important for humankind. I will never accept any of this malakery.
User's avatar npub1rr65...eeul
Now @jack is pushing BIP-177 to change satoshis to bitcoin. Are these people crazy?! Turning 21 million bitcoin into 2.1 quadrillion “bitcoins” isn’t just bad branding—it completely nukes the most important meme in Bitcoin’s history. This isn’t just a bad idea. It’s a recipe for confusion, dilution, and long-term cultural fragmentation. We’ve spent 15 years building absolute clarity around one of the strongest memes in monetary history: 21 million Bitcoin. 100 million satoshis each. Simple. Elegant. Untouchable. And now, right on the edge of global adoption—now—they want to rewrite the script? This doesn’t feel like UX optimization. It feels like a narrative hijack. A subtle takeover—not of the protocol, but of how people think about Bitcoin. And that’s just as powerful. Maybe I’m paranoid. But changing the unit, the name, and the supply right before mass onboarding doesn’t just feel tone-deaf—it feels strategic. Like rewriting the map while millions are just beginning to find their way. I’ve never heard anything more short-sighted, more dangerous, or more fundamentally disconnected from what makes Bitcoin work. It’s not a UI bug. It’s a memetic monument. You don’t demolish it for clicks, smooth UX, or vanity campaigns. You protect it—because mass adoption is coming. And what people adopt must be the truth, not a convenient lie wrapped in “accessibility.” image
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confusing people's thinking is a key strategy of psychological warfare, and was used to create the edifice of socialist bureaucratic stupidity i really wonder how they leaned on jack to promote this bullshit but it's possible his mind was this mushy to begin with, else how did he not stay ahead of the attempts to make the minds of his colleauges at twitter mushy?
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Of course, no system is perfect. But ones are better than others. I would rather try figuring out how to use cryptography, private/public key, and auditable blockchain tech to try and make voting as privately as possible for the individual but as public as possible for the result verifications. I think the best shot at that is something pertaining to blockchains rather than keeping with the old system which is highly corruptible.
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The decimal isn’t fake—it’s a human-readable layer on top of satoshis, which are very real and very intentional. Removing the decimal and calling satoshis “bitcoin” doesn’t solve anything—it destroys the clarity we’ve built. And the idea that “no one cares about the 21 million meme” is just wrong. That meme is why Bitcoin works. It’s why people trust it. It’s why it has value. It’s what makes it different from every fiat system on Earth. You don’t rip out the heart of a protocol just because some people don’t get it yet. You teach them. Because Bitcoin doesn’t adapt to confusion. It survives because it resists it.
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User's avatar npub1rr65...eeul
Now @jack is pushing BIP-177 to change satoshis to bitcoin. Are these people crazy?! Turning 21 million bitcoin into 2.1 quadrillion “bitcoins” isn’t just bad branding—it completely nukes the most important meme in Bitcoin’s history. This isn’t just a bad idea. It’s a recipe for confusion, dilution, and long-term cultural fragmentation. We’ve spent 15 years building absolute clarity around one of the strongest memes in monetary history: 21 million Bitcoin. 100 million satoshis each. Simple. Elegant. Untouchable. And now, right on the edge of global adoption—now—they want to rewrite the script? This doesn’t feel like UX optimization. It feels like a narrative hijack. A subtle takeover—not of the protocol, but of how people think about Bitcoin. And that’s just as powerful. Maybe I’m paranoid. But changing the unit, the name, and the supply right before mass onboarding doesn’t just feel tone-deaf—it feels strategic. Like rewriting the map while millions are just beginning to find their way. I’ve never heard anything more short-sighted, more dangerous, or more fundamentally disconnected from what makes Bitcoin work. It’s not a UI bug. It’s a memetic monument. You don’t demolish it for clicks, smooth UX, or vanity campaigns. You protect it—because mass adoption is coming. And what people adopt must be the truth, not a convenient lie wrapped in “accessibility.” image
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Jack ain’t been the same since Drake fucked his girl Thought he was smarter than this Anyone with a quarter oz of a brain in their skull knows this is the dumbest BIP ever Like it literally makes me angry that people are this fuckin stupid in Bitcoin It’s disgusting
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Nice meme, but no—1 Bitcoin ≠ 1 satoshi. The source code uses integers, yes—but it counts in satoshis, not bitcoin. 1 BTC = 100,000,000 satoshis. That’s how it’s always been. Saying 1 satoshi = 1 bitcoin isn’t a clever insight—it’s a total redefinition of the unit, supply, and meme. And it’s not in the code. It’s in the narrative you’re trying to rewrite.
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Respectfully, you’re missing the red flag here. BIP-177 isn’t a protocol-level proposal—it’s an informational BIP. That means it bypasses consensus entirely. It’s not about changing Bitcoin Core. It’s about changing how wallets and exchanges display Bitcoin—by redefining 1 satoshi as 1 “bitcoin” in the UI. That’s what makes it dangerous. It targets perception, not protocol. And now that Jack Dorsey—a wallet manufacturer with massive reach—is backing it, you start to see the full picture. This isn’t about software constraints. It’s about steering the narrative, quietly, through design. That’s not drama. That’s strategy. And we’d be naive to ignore it.
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if man changed satoshi into bitcoin , then man also deprecated the value , as jack mention 1 sats = 1 btc and that would be unfair to people who onboarding first , their bitcoin value would be less , very very less . in my opinion .