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A lot of information that is not beneficial to the current mainstream narrative and political agenda gets scrubbed from the Internet all the time. In other words, news articles, blog posts and whole web sites get memoryholed. Internet Archive and its Wayback Machine have preserved the deleted information, “the Internet never forgets” comes from that for a big part. If they are shut down, the censors (the global cabal that controls the media and politics) will have a field day and most people would have absolutely no means of proving that a piece of information had existed. This is a path towards total information control.

Facts.

The Internet Archive should stop being deep state agents and start working for the planet itself. Any data lost is a result of failure by the archive's operators to break out of deep-state-agent mentality soon enough, and with enough effectiveness. They still have time to decentralize their resources. Files need to be distributed via bittorrent. Mainstream trackers need to be added to official archive torrent files (instead of just the archive.org http trackers). Volunteer couriers need to be given storage devices to transport around the world to volunteer hosts to shift capacity from the centralized organization to the volunteer data hosting network. Careful planning is needed to maximize how much data can escape the government's grip, before too many volunteers are stopped by force and too much of the data is seized. Again, I repeat: any data lost is a result of failure by the archive's operators to break out of deep-state-agent mentality soon enough, and with enough effectiveness.

I have a rather controversial opinion about them: From a purely personal perspective, I don't find them that important. I'm not particularly positive towards them. I'm not negative either, but I wouldn't miss them. I have a lot of reservations about the 'right to be forgotten' on the internet and I don't think much of services that archive things without asking and by default (opt-out). I advocate for self-sovereignty, not for a service that undermines any efforts on my part as a website operator when I want to take something offline. I know there is a robots.txt directive to prevent them from archiving everything. But, as I said, that's an opt-out, not an opt-in. View quoted note →

yea, this is tragic. I have used them for years, primarily for history and genealogy research. now the books cant be downloaded for any length of time, and music comes in 30 second samples

Get as many SSD as you can and download as much stuff as possible.

Incredibly fucked up.

I don't know much about The Internet Archive, but... The world doesn't 'owe' us a record of everything that was ever written/recorded, let alone the ability to access it immediatley and for zero cost. If you are the author of something that you want preserved for decades, then you have to make the effort to host / torrent it.

I feel that internet archive could work really well with lightning... paying a few sats per view could keep the project going.

any way to help as a pleb?

Someone is spending a lot of resources to attack history itself. The question should be what do they want to be hidden and forgotten?

They need to blockchain it

It’s very alarming, would be a digital equivalent of burning the Library of Alexandria

It's a very sad story. Hopefully people learn that we all need to be archivists and not outsource this responsibility, however awesome IA is.

"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right."

So weird. Surely, 78 rpm records are of the public domain by now, no?

What can we do? This is horrible.