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Is it really true that Bluesky has better marketing than Nostr and is a better product than Nostr and that's why it has more users? Or is only big like that because it has received consistent and relentless praise and free corporate media boostings since day one -- always, to this day, with a big picture of Jack on the side (even though Jack has never been much involved and then cut his ties with them completely) and the word "decentralized" in big letters (even though it isn't decentralized and can never be). Sure, there are other factors, probably many others, but to ignore this part -- about which we don't have any control -- is not going to lead to a good understanding of our situation and of what we should do.
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I don’t really understand this kind of criticism (and not to pick on Will here, it seems to be from ~everyone). Bluesky took a different approach - first build a product people want whose technology supports decentralization, and add the features the geeks want later. It’s easy to shit on their lack of decentralization, but Bluesky has made clear and consistent progress on that front since day one, and I assume they will continue to do so. The result has been a product that’s growing (those user stats are pretty realistic, doubly so when you look at the number of accounts actually posting real content) way more than nostr with tons of anti-centralization features that nostr is missing (anyone can create a feed algorithm, and there are many, decentralized content tagging is a really cool innovation - different “adult content” tagging services, opt-in different moderation services, etc). The federated model of Mastodon led to a trainwreck of fiefdoms run by weirdly obsessive and controlling mods, but Bluesky took that and addressed the issues by splitting moderation from hosting. Sure, Bluesky’s hosting model means you don’t get the relay-redundancy that sets nostr’s censorship resistance apart, but that’s not all that hard to add in the future (with the sync assumption they make making it easier to make efficient, too). Building the kinds of stuff Bluesky has on nostr is gonna take a huge investment, we can’t leave folks like Will stuck building critical nostr apps by himself. View quoted note →
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I saw a post, recently, claiming that pro-palestine accounts were being deleted from bluesky as spam. If that's true, it would seem that a major effect of bluesky will be to give left/liberal people a feeling of safety so that they don't push back too hard as they are herded by the Zionist machine. Xitter for right wing, bluesky for left wing, but both of them ultimately serving Israel.
Bluesky is an app that runs in on the AT protocol. Nostr is a protocol. People can’t go to an App Store and download Nostr. The apps need to market themselves. Marketing the protocol simply gets you more developers. There are other factors related to branding that are not helping Nostr, but starting with the apps instead of the protocol goes a long way.
#Bluesky is twitter wannabe .. all the vague and woke people obviously go there - no surprise .. #Twitter in itself was a failure - absolutely no traction for common people .. Even though I have tremendous respect for Jack but that doesn't change the facts .. Zuck beat the shit out of twitter not once - three times (with FB , Insta and Whatsapp) ... I know people here may not like this but it is a data based truth .. The goal of #nostr is still iunclear .. people are trying to figure out what it stands for ... I am attracted to #nostr cuz I feel it is natural extension of #bitcoin .. if #btc is #gold then #nostr is the market place ... many others beleive it is new inetrnet .. some think it is the content management system .. yet others feel it is the system of record ... Masses shall find #nostr only when it pivots to one aspect .. but the point is - there is no hurry to pivot .. there is no reason to crave for dumb users - at least early on ...
Nostr leads with decentralization - a term which an average person doesn't understand the meaning of, forget care about. A new user typically starts off with a blank feed or Trending feed that will most likely contain atleast 2 Bitcoin posts or global feed which is a wildcard. What's the incentive to stay on? Most social media are used for passive to moderately active consumption, which is difficult on Nostr 🤷‍♀️
BLUESKY é só está crescendo por causa do esquerdistas que fugiram do Tweet, só por isso. No caso do Brasil por que houve o bloqueio do Tweet. Mas lá parece um cemitério depois que o tweet votou ao Brasil. Logo logo que acabar essa onda inicial muita gente irá voltar para o tweet. Na realidade o BLUESKY vai matar o Mastodon pois ambos tem o mesmo público.