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I don’t really understand this kind of criticism (and not to pick on Will here, it seems to be from ~everyone). Bluesky took a different approach - first build a product people want whose technology supports decentralization, and add the features the geeks want later. It’s easy to shit on their lack of decentralization, but Bluesky has made clear and consistent progress on that front since day one, and I assume they will continue to do so. The result has been a product that’s growing (those user stats are pretty realistic, doubly so when you look at the number of accounts actually posting real content) way more than nostr with tons of anti-centralization features that nostr is missing (anyone can create a feed algorithm, and there are many, decentralized content tagging is a really cool innovation - different “adult content” tagging services, opt-in different moderation services, etc). The federated model of Mastodon led to a trainwreck of fiefdoms run by weirdly obsessive and controlling mods, but Bluesky took that and addressed the issues by splitting moderation from hosting. Sure, Bluesky’s hosting model means you don’t get the relay-redundancy that sets nostr’s censorship resistance apart, but that’s not all that hard to add in the future (with the sync assumption they make making it easier to make efficient, too). Building the kinds of stuff Bluesky has on nostr is gonna take a huge investment, we can’t leave folks like Will stuck building critical nostr apps by himself. View quoted note →

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The current invitation-only model of Bluesky raises questions about its commitment to decentralization. By requiring an invitation code, the platform inherently controls who can join, which allows it to track and manage its growth—a practice more aligned with centralized marketing strategies. This approach might discourage some potential users, as it did for me last year when I decided not to pursue joining. On the other hand, NOSTR embodies the principles of true decentralization. Despite its slower adoption and performance challenges, it operates without gatekeeping mechanisms, staying true to the ethos of an open and decentralized social media network. For me, this makes NOSTR a more authentic example of decentralized technology.
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I don’t really understand this kind of criticism (and not to pick on Will here, it seems to be from ~everyone). Bluesky took a different approach - first build a product people want whose technology supports decentralization, and add the features the geeks want later. It’s easy to shit on their lack of decentralization, but Bluesky has made clear and consistent progress on that front since day one, and I assume they will continue to do so. The result has been a product that’s growing (those user stats are pretty realistic, doubly so when you look at the number of accounts actually posting real content) way more than nostr with tons of anti-centralization features that nostr is missing (anyone can create a feed algorithm, and there are many, decentralized content tagging is a really cool innovation - different “adult content” tagging services, opt-in different moderation services, etc). The federated model of Mastodon led to a trainwreck of fiefdoms run by weirdly obsessive and controlling mods, but Bluesky took that and addressed the issues by splitting moderation from hosting. Sure, Bluesky’s hosting model means you don’t get the relay-redundancy that sets nostr’s censorship resistance apart, but that’s not all that hard to add in the future (with the sync assumption they make making it easier to make efficient, too). Building the kinds of stuff Bluesky has on nostr is gonna take a huge investment, we can’t leave folks like Will stuck building critical nostr apps by himself. View quoted note →
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Blues Sky está crescendo porque um bando de esquerdistas está indo pra lá, e de forma financiada. É apenas por isso. Não há nada de novo, ou melhor naquela porcaria que não tenha melhor no X. Portanto, essa sua leitura é, no mínimo, imbecil. Blues Sky is growing because a bunch of leftists are going there, and they're getting funding. That's all it is. There's nothing new or better in that crap that isn't better in X. So your reading is, to say the least, idiotic.
It is such a challenge to explain to people that free speech enforcement is not decentralization for some reason…? People lie for personal gain - to game the network and assume status. They do this by finding a niche identity that positions them to blame half the network into a collective state of polarization. Polarization is the exact opposite of consensus. Decentralization has to be consensus for there to be organic self governance as opposed to centralized governance. We need to get away from this ridiculous idea that free speech absolutism works. Lying is not a right. @jack was on the right track with the centrist mindset at Twitter, but ever since then no one has been doing meaningful work on content moderation.
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This is the problem everywhere. Pretty widely held that a democracy of morons doesn’t work. What else is a marketplace of ideas if not voting in favor of ideas with identity formation and in-group affiliation. There’s a few ways morons respond. They don’t which is a type of response. They lash out or laugh off what you’re saying because they don’t want to contend with it intellectually. or they become curious because they have the humility to admit that they don’t know everything. I hope you are not emblematic of this community.