I wish there was a small town somewhere that bitcoiners would just take over and make our own. I have lots of fantasies about this, but I’m pretty sure it ends up being a disaster…
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I mean…who would build the roads?
Don’t you mean who would build the nodes?
BYONode I assumed.
You cannot create a functional society with only like-minded people.
Lol this is a ridiculous take. We love in a "functional society" with almost all "like minded" people. Find me someone who is pro murder.
Are you saying we need people with different views on murder and theft? Would that be more or less functional?
I think they mean that eventually, the like-mindedness is tested and a bifurcation always occurs. The two groups have to exist together in some manner that does not recognize the previously held like-mindedness... The people who think like this believe their current system of court rules, so-called Law, and other accumulated anomalies that they call the Justice system is some Holy Grail that can never be replicated and is always growing and changing on it's own, at their behest and profit of course. The even have fanatical overtones to their Religion of "justice". It's insane and irrational and they want you in it!
I completely agree with you on the simplicity of agreeing on the basics like the "no pro-murder", but knowledge and opinions are fractal. There will always be someone who has a complicated take on killing the murderer and there will be people that agree. The same for theft. Is theft the same as stealing? That is a whole other debate. What about the stealing food to avoid starvation or the latest hunger pang?
Qualia flavors EVERYTHING and obliterates like-mindedness. If we could live with our hearts, then yes. But we live in a material world and we use our brains to do it. Logic and reason divide the mind. The heart suffers for it.
You have piqued my curiosity on this Lander, Wyoming thing. Is the Prairie Republic dot net website, the current embodiment of the movement? I was fascinated by the Free State Project. Now I've got some more research to do. Thank you!
Citadel someday
Citadel now, come to Wyoming
All the people with Fuck You Money saying Fuck You to each other
😂🤣
Morning neighbour! ☀️and…GFY
Sounds like the movie, Visioneers... Don't explode! 😆
i share said fantasies
It's funny... The republics start entire countries but don't have currencies. The Bitcoiners have currency but no country. Why don't the bitcoiners start or join a new republic like the www.prairierepublic.net and adopt a bitcoin currency? That way you get a constitution and a trustless banking system.
I wish there was a small town somewhere that bitcoiners would just take over and make our own. I have lots of fantasies about this, but I’m pretty sure it ends up being a disaster…
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Yep. There must always be better governance. The old forms of governance are morally weak, untrustworthy and incapable of true government which is self-government.
The territorial allotment form of government has seen it's worser days... The governance systems of tomorrow must be akin to overlay districts with many forms of optionality built-in... Duress, compulsion and enslavement must be abolished for all but the most serious of crimes which harm others...
There is. It was called fiat city.
Yes and yes 😂😅
It’s worth finding out.
"Libertarians built a #Bitcoin economy in a small New Hampshire town — then feds tore it down"


The Verge
Libertarians built a crypto mecca in New Hampshire — then Feds tore it down
The rise and fall of a Bitcoin empire.
Poor guy.
Interesting article. I find it a bit strange how the hard core libertarians like Jeffery Tucker and the PorcFest types lean more towards bcash and almost don’t want to talk about increasing their wealth or making money. It’s almost like wealth is power and power goes against the non aggression principle or something. Even Tom Woods seems to know BTC is the best asset but wants to be respectful of BCH. Either way I find myself relating less and less with libertarians and more with conservatives.
I think a lot of people in the Free Talk Live circle were introduced to Bitcoin by Roger Ver, so when he went to the BCH side of things they went too. I haven't listened to FTL in a bit, but lately they talk about Dash or Monero more, I haven't heard them talk about BCH in a bit. What blows my mind even more is that they aren't on Nostr. Sure we won't agree on currencies, fine, but isn't Nostr is more in line with their values than Twitter?
It's called Lander Wyoming and it's happening, join us and push back the blue wave of immigrants we are competing with
I will bite. Where can a read more about the Lander Wyoming Wonderful Project, please?
It's not an "official project" at least not yet, it's just the best and most free area I. Wyoming and I'm slowly convincing more Bitcoiners and Libertarians to move here
That many outcasts in one place would be CHAOS
The Libertarians are doing that with NH.
It is an epic effort they are putting forth, but building a free community in a place surrounded by people who want anything but freedom(Vermont,New York...)was a bad call.
Pillage or take peacefully?
Yes to the very last part 😅
Supposedly this is the purpose of private property. To be a check and balance against municipal corporate corruption. We have this already. Why not build upon it? Why do we have this innate desire to cluster? Why does it have to be a town or city?
Because people are social beinga and need community.
I must disagree. I am an anti-social being and need immunity from the community. Solitude is more valuable than never being able to repel the mind virus of Society. I think that people desire community on their terms, but they do NOT "need" it... This is sociological degree bullcrap conditioning...
Ok, you can do you but most people def need community.
There is a famous saying "it takes an entire village to raise a child" and there is a reason for this. There are planty psychological and sociological researches done on this topic as well as analyzing feom Dr Gabor Mate. Numbers speak for themselves.
I'm on my way.
What do we need to make this work.
1. Libertarian hippie mindset but with guns.
2. Would work hard to earn or not have to spend sats.
3. Everyone is rich AF but no one from outside could tell because everyone is living humble and modest homestead lifestyles.
If everyone just wants to build a mansion then you are looking at a security estate where power/control and services get centralized through a body corporate.
That already exists in fiat world. Homestead communities also exist in fiat world but I think bitcoin changes the incentive structures enough to make for a novel outcome.
The more people get involved the more formalised your constitution needs to be.
So a community cap could be needed.
Are you raising an alarm about the potential fate of Nostr ville?
Bitcoin is for everyone, not just for early adopter bitcoiners.
Let’s try anyway!
Kind of happening in the jungle
Madeira is getting there... 👀
it probably would. Better for us if we do not sit all in the same spot. Less cruse missile risk that way
Got a nice small town where I'm at
But we're landlocked & I don't like that
I like my small town, I just want a bunch of cool bitcoiners around me rather than a strange mix or rednecks and costal libs
Same +100💪
Wyoming has a ton. Most are just too cozy to put in proof of work to live where freedom is rampant
Burick’s Galt’s Gulch comes to mind.
Maybe New Hampshire?
But in any case, the real Citadel is the one you carry around in your mind.
I dream about this. All the time.
I've been following the Free State Project in New Hampshire from its inception. Your instinct is correct...
