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It is out of the box action. Typical rules are hands off the leaders, but that always assumed assasination, which is why it was not allowed. But when they create a legal issue and just send in the cops, they skipped the war part all together. Wild stuff. Sets a new precedent. The major issue I see in taking Venezuala is it may embolden China to want to take Tawain.
Oh Odell. The American gov't has been killing innocent Venezuelan fishermen for months, leading to this. Julian Assange filed a criminal complaint over the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado, poised to take over the new gov't. She has actively and publicly supported Trump’s attacks to remove Maduro and assume power. She has also backed attacks on Palestinians. It’s been going on for a while. US has a long history of intervention through opposition leaders, military force, coups, covert CIA operations, economic pressure, and diplomatic coercion across the Global South, all to protect its economic interests. This was a template move. There are many narratives depending on which convinces you to justify this act, just pick one. Drugs. Peace. Liberation. Socialism. China etc etc. It worked during the Cold War. In today’s information era, the world sees right through it and people are pissed. If the American gov’t put the same effort into developing real competence at home, things would look very different. You don’t need to steal another country's oil and minerals. I’m afraid America still doesn’t get how strong the world is without it. European gov’t are just as weak, that’s what happens when you take away their financial sovereignty. Today, if the Eastern world or the Global South strikes back, leadership could flip but they are choosing peace, calm, and respect for international law. What troubles me is the disconnect between advocating for Bitcoin and individual sovereignty while ignoring how state power systematically undermines the sovereignty of other nations. Wanna liberate people? Empower them to build and defend their own systems, not coerce them from the outside.
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I agree with this very much. However there is a scary truth to this situation: state power is how nations work, and Bitcoin/international sovereignty must find an effective way to empower the people (as is intended by the structure of a healthy nation state) in order to defend against this bullying effect. What must the collective do to move the US towards more peaceful diplomacy?
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> US has a long history of intervention through opposition leaders, military force, coups, covert CIA operations, economic pressure, and diplomatic coercion across the Global South, all to protect its economic interests yes, and this was probably one of the most successful ones > There are many narratives depending on which convinces you to justify this act i did not justify it
↩ replying to ODELL
> yes, and this was probably one of the most successful ones Lots of them were successful at removing the existing leaders quickly. The problem is always what happens after that. Not saying I disagree with removing the guy, but we cannot judge the effectiveness of this operation until we see what comes next, which won’t be clear for months or years. I just hope for Venezuela’s sake the Trump admin has a good plan in place for the next steps.
↩ replying to blackstrype
So long as America remains divided, it will not build. And as long as it does not build, the population will suffer. You cannot have a peaceful foreign policy when the population is economically fragile. America hasn't recovered from the aftermath of globalization some 40 years ago. Ironically, globalization was a right-wing decision that concentrated growth in cities that today is championed by the left wing. You see the same in Europe. Unless Americans come together and demand a serious focus on rebuilding economic resilience at home, nothing changes. You can blame foreigners and migrants only for so long. You can live on slogans like “Make America Great Again” only for so long. You can steal from other countries only so much before decline becomes structural. If the goal is to make America great, at some point you have to build. And to build, you have to come together.
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What comes next is that a few Exxon executives will go back to being obscenely rich, while Venezuelans remain poor after losing control over 80% of their oil reserves. There is no country from which the US forcefully seized or restructured control over oil that ended up better off in the long run. Gaddafi nationalized oil and ensured Libyans had free healthcare, free education, and one of the highest standards of living in Africa. Heck, he bridged left and right, something US has not been able to do. But instead the US army sodomized him to death in the name of “liberation from the dictator”, seized the oil and made Libya the poorest in the region. Ironically, this Venezuela incident would have been a good moment for bitcoin influencers to say “bitcoin fixes this,” because the root of the issue drills down to currency war. Not justifying theft
As they would want us to think. Only such a perfect operation could be performed by Oceania (the US). The only real life way, is for all soldiers and guards to stand down - seems far fetched. Maybe all the guards hated Maduro? Could he pay his security enough to keep them happy in a hyperinflationary environment?
freedom, property rights are just stories those hypocrite influencers sell to fill their pockets. when it comes standing up against the empire that has been colonising & plundering the world, suddenly property rights & freedom has no meaning. fuck those hypocritical parasites, bitcoin was created to help people to escape from the horrors of US empire and now we have so called bitcoin influencers licking the boots of the empire & justify the gangster regime. fucking sick.
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> freedom, property rights are just stories those hypocrite influencers sell to fill their pockets. incoherent > when it comes standing up against the empire that has been colonising & plundering the world, suddenly property rights & freedom has no meaning. what do you expect? for everyone in the entire world to just get along and play nice? > fuck those hypocritical parasites, bitcoin was created to help people to escape from the horrors of US empire and now we have so called bitcoin influencers licking the boots of the empire & justify the gangster regime. fucking sick. hyperbolic and inaccurate. there is no justification of the "gangster regime" in this post. bitcoin was not created to help people escape the horrors of the US empire.
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↩ replying to The Daniel 🖖
all I know is that he said FAFO. I don't know if he said it was an act of war. I don't think it was an act of war. Also, when was the last time they actually went through the constitutional process for matters of war (I don't think it should be that way, I'm just saying). Lastly, to answer my own question and invalidate your original statement, the constitution applies to domestic affairs and not international ones