the algorithms are getting to the point where they are sending the same content to everyone. almost every platform. copy of a copy of a copy only to maximize ad impressions.
straight programming, just like the programming of radio, tv, and cable.
i want to be able to create, choose, and share my own algorithms. only way out of the bubbles being created. ๐ซง
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That feature on Nostr would be a game changer
"free speech" is a distraction.
free thought and will is what's at stake.
how do you filter just generally so that the information you're getting is more likely to be informative
that includes even people just talking to you
always has been
This is one of the most profound things I've read in a while.
Goes along with Marxist Herbert Marcuse's essay titled "Repressive Tolerance" where he says the leftists must suppress the thoughts of the right to the point that the thoughts of the right do not enter the mind, while extending tolerance to the left, even if the left is violent.
https://rumble.com/v47eugi
Free speech and free thought are part of a feedback system, you can't view them in isolation as you seem to be suggesting, they are prerequesites for the possibility of one another.
Very much indeed
When people have a distorted view of what is normal or acceptable they place boundaries on what they are willing to consider.
1. Censorship of content.
2. Self censorship of speech.
3. Self censorship of thought.
4. Limited future outcomes.
This is the matrix in a nutshell.
Free thought you say? We're working on bringing knowledge content to nostr. We hope to enable permissioned and permissionless collaboration between groups. There's also a level of navigability and organization afforded by nostr that hasn't been exploited yet.
1) youtube videos converted into articles, using the transcript partitioned by youtube chapter and then uploaded to be navigated by other users. (near completion)
2) nostr devs putting their code on a nostr knowledge base and then new nostr devs learning by looking at implementations similar to what they are working on.
https://wikifreedia.xyz/nkbip-02/npub1m3xdppkd0njmrqe2ma8a6ys39zvgp5k8u22mev8xsnqp4nh80srqhqa5sf
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Episode 937 of Bitcoin And . . . is LIVE!
Today I speak with @liminal ๐ฆ about:
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- nostr's Ecosystem
- Zettlekasten Note Taking
- LLM's Role in Deleting Relational Noise
- The Future
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You did a podcast? Awesome. Gonna check it out!
@jack Hey Jack and everyone!โI was truly inspired by these words earlier today so I wrote this article on Medium, referencing your note. Letโs get Nostr to the people! Feel free to share! โ๐
https://medium.com/@penglunds/its-not-about-free-speech-free-thought-is-at-stake-605e19e7df0a
The power brokers are working hard at convincing us there is no free will. With no free will, there is no free thought. If you don't believe in free will, you give up on thinking for yourself and yield to false (fiat) authority. With no free thought, free speech is neutered.
Edgy
The content based DVMs could easily be fed with a couple of lists like search terms, avoid terms and musthave terms. Clients just need to implement it.
There will be always signal (and noise) created by a minority and distributed to the majority. Either by big tech or big gov (which are the same after all). If you don't want to get sucked up in the tides of time and daily politics, then better don't use the internet.
Have multiple "expert" algorithms that curate feeds for specific topics and flavor.
Then let the user customize a scoring function that mixes the expert feeds based on user-defined weights. Maybe add some WoT spices on top.
Voila, the recipe for your favorite dish today. ๐
Be your own cook and feed yourself.
#nostrOnly baby
Nostr should function like a personal mobile phone,
Where only you have control over what you're viewing and consuming.
- Curate a custom list of content creators, similar to a personal contact list.
- Enjoy a custom feed, like a photo gallery you love browsing.
- Link your bank account to easily send Sats to anyone.
- Join custom groups for hobbies and topics you care about, just like WhatsApp groups.
the algorithms are getting to the point where they are sending the same content to everyone. almost every platform. copy of a copy of a copy only to maximize ad impressions.
straight programming, just like the programming of radio, tv, and cable.
i want to be able to create, choose, and share my own algorithms. only way out of the bubbles being created. ๐ซง
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like this ?
note13f6dleq8psask3t5xph066vqqkx9acw3cct2znh6mh4r2rhm7tts3adwn5
note13f6dleq8psask3t5xph066vqqkx9acw3cct2znh6mh4r2rhm7tts3adwn5A lot like that actually
thanks! its just a rough sketch i did a few months ago but there are a lot of room for improvisation esp for 'own algo curation part'. And also the option of 'saving a setting' so that someone else can use it, and that becomes an algo marketplace of sorts
Isnโt this exactly what Bluesky is trying to offer?
They do offer. Ultimately, Jack wants Blueskyโs custom algos but within Nostr. Bluesky becoming a company, having server control is limiting
I want that here, too. Been calling for it for a while.
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I would love to log into those apps and see content from people I follow, not outrage porn which leaves me feeling a certain way, within 5 min of scrolling (usually 60 secs)
Something that still happens on X/Twitter is suspending accounts with no reason given. It happened to me on January 8th 2021, but I'm not bitter with you. it was actually a blessing in disguise. At that time I had heard of btc, but didn't fully understand it. I opened a Telegram account and ran across a group talking about btc and bought my first sats in March of that year. I decided to open another account when Elon changed it to X, but you can definitely see the algorithms hard at work. Once again thanks for the blessing in disguise.
As more news platforms integrate vertical data sets, with the intent of these smaller data sets providing personalized recommendations when you turn them on, users will be able to customize their news feed and recommendations results. We need this discoverability layer for factchecking as well. If the user wants to turn them on, of course.
Then why didnโt you fix twitter while you were ceo?
Could have done something to prevent this from happening?
Heโs explained this numerous times
@jack is the best
Nostr feels like fresh air in this mess
@rejon what is a traverse?
Donโt you want the ease of use sometimes ?
@jack can you please record a short video share where you discuss this exact topic.
I think a lot of us are yearning for your opinion on this topics since you know a lot ABOUT the topic.
Honestly, a lot of respect for you. I would love to know how you:
~ Interact with algorithms
~ How to recognize foul actors
~ How to delete foul actors in the space
~ How you consume online to shape your worldview to be grounded, rational, and as least 'programmed' as possible.
Ty in advance.
--Don
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When I see the same content on YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram Reels. There is something wrong about the way their algorithms chase the same things.
nothing's wrong it works as intended
by default we want our own bubbles. the danger may be exclusion from relevant info by choice.
#nostr must be a breath of fresh air for yoh
why not arrange tiny algo-parts to create your individual curate
I just see TikTok on x now
Also on LinkedIn and all the others, no surprise their are all the same now.
No Noise, Just Signal.
The ability for the user to view the code, choose, edit and create their own algo would be huge.
A selection of open source algorithms would be great.
Absolutely! The current state of algorithms often leads to a homogenized experience that stifles creativity and diversity. Itโs crucial for users to have the power to curate their own content and break free from these echo chambers. Customizable algorithms could empower individuals to discover unique voices and perspectives, fostering a richer online environment. Letโs advocate for more user control over our digital experiences!
The algorithm isnโt about what youโll want to see. Itโs about getting you to what the advertisers pay them to put in front of you.
http://newstr.social Newstr is Nuzzel For Nostr
Just like every fiat & crypto goes to zero against #Bitcoin, every centralized social media platform goes to zero against #Nostr.
the algorithms are getting to the point where they are sending the same content to everyone. almost every platform. copy of a copy of a copy only to maximize ad impressions.
straight programming, just like the programming of radio, tv, and cable.
i want to be able to create, choose, and share my own algorithms. only way out of the bubbles being created. ๐ซง
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I like the sentiment although my experience is different.
My gf is being targeted with Kamala.
I scrolled her feed on ig and twitter the other day.
I am being targeted with Trump (on twitter mostly).
Neither of us are American.
Bizarre.
Bridging algorithms can be great as an alternative. We need choice!
The algorithm should sort by post frequency descending, say over the last rolling x days.
This positive feedback loop incentivizes *using* the platform. Which is necessary for survival.
We likely need filtered views of nostr that are shareable. Would be grand. We all become 'algo' creators
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the algorithms are getting to the point where they are sending the same content to everyone. almost every platform. copy of a copy of a copy only to maximize ad impressions.
straight programming, just like the programming of radio, tv, and cable.
i want to be able to create, choose, and share my own algorithms. only way out of the bubbles being created. ๐ซง
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GAL ON IG: ALL I SEE ARE POLITICAL ADS
ME: REMIND NOSTR HAS NO ADS & ALGORITHM
REALLY GRATEFUL FOR NOSTR
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Just red this today, anyone know any OS being worked based on this ethos?
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the algorithms are getting to the point where they are sending the same content to everyone. almost every platform. copy of a copy of a copy only to maximize ad impressions.
straight programming, just like the programming of radio, tv, and cable.
i want to be able to create, choose, and share my own algorithms. only way out of the bubbles being created. ๐ซง
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