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“I’m not political” “Voting is a scam” Allow me to be blunt here. This most recent ECB paper made clear something many of us have known for awhile. When the price of Bitcoin goes up regular people are going to want to kill you. The state is also going to want to kill you. They will be deeply aligned on the solution to their problem being, murdering you. Don’t say it won’t happen. It has happened in every society on earth. It will happen. You’re not political? Grow up Peter Pan, count chocula it’s not Halloween. Be serious. This is big boy shit. The state is a weapon. People are going to want to wield it against you. What’re you gonna do about that? “I’m not political” Yeah well I am. I have to be. I want the world to reflect my values and respect my right to life liberty and property. We have to protect ourselves from what’s coming. And believe me when I say… it is definitely coming.

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Voting is still a scam, there is a flaw in your reasoning. It's like saying: Poverty is a real problem. People die because of poverty, so I HAVE TO play the lottery to get rich. Yes, politics is a real problem, but voting is not a real solution. It only enhances the political class, legitimises their authority while making you powerless (hope for others to solve your problems) and complicit (you play the game that authorises them to steal and kill). Fiat and debt are the fundamental problems for clown world. Believe me, the fiat world will try to stay alive under both the Democrats AND the Republicans. You'll get the same shit in another package, because Trump will face the same incentives (that's why he didn't do anything last time). People will still be murdered, but now you are complicit because you voted for the murderer. Election is a schitcoin, amazing that a maxi like you falls for it
This is a helluva discussion. Both candidates want to send our tax dollars abroad to fund foreign wars. I’m ready for infrastructure activism, make our roads smooth and pristine, reinvest in neighborhoods, support american businesses and just upgrade our systems. We have projects to focus on here, let other countries fund their own wars. I don’t feel right voting for any of the two choices.
Politics is a state run soap opera. Trusting one side will change make it better this time is ignoring all of modern history. It's two sides of the same coin, a fiat coin, a state run system. Cannot vote out of it. And it's all predicated on the illusion and real world consequences compelling people into hope or a believe to voluntary immersion into the systems negative feed back loop. It's all a charade and illusionary trap doors/exits. And yes it historically doesn't end well for the persecuted. In early America people could evade persecution and unjust laws by moving to another state or traveling west. Those days are clearly long gone. Hopefully the masses become aware of bitcoin. That is the only hope I see.
Both this ECB paper and the recent one from the Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank shine light on their barely concealed belief that people are here to serve the state. While the ECB paper drips with contempt, the Fed paper is blatant in its intent of keeping you trapped in the cycle of debt regardless of whether you want to be a part of it. Denying you a way out of the system is tantamount to making you a slave of it. The moral corruption underlying the motivation behind these papers is astonishing.
The carnage that is coming for regular people that do not understand what’s going on is going to be painful and when they see bitcoiners doing well they will hate our guts and will vote for any politician that say they will pass any laws to harm us
I’ve been saying this for years. Ops are so naive. This is all human nature. Ops like to pretend like they are above it, but deep down they align with the poor commies with the pitchforks too. That’s why they parrot the nonsense they do. Sour grapes
Probably more threats from poor Bitcoiners. It usually comes from ppl you know. Not random violence. Also they are more on the fringes of society where they have questionable morals. The entitlement of the poor ops is off the charts already and growing. Look at how they view btc gains, pure luck. Beating the market only counts to them when it’s not in btc. They are constantly telling on themselves. Citadels will function like country clubs to prevent this. Have to get recommended by someone already in.
Lol. Either the state will crush you too (because obviously every user of the state gets crushed or corrupted) or you disassociate with the state and it withers from obscurity. Because being productive and being within the state apparatus are mutually exclusive. I love this fantasy so many of you statists have, "This time we'll use the power of theft and coercion for GOOD!" LOL the naïveté is delicious.
Ya u right, I just really struggle with anything political because for the past 40 years pretty much every standard of living metric in the US that matters has declined. Over that 40 years, the one constant seems to be giving more power to governing bodies, as well as just an overall increased focus in anything political, and of course money printing. I guess I’m just kinda a “burn it down slowly” kind of guy but I do get that we can’t really protect ourselves without allies.
If we could truly get an administration that wanted to make BTC legal tender and also build a strategic reserve, and align their incentives with an individual holder……I think America would really separate itself as the innovator of the world and blow everyone out of the water with the amount of intellectual talent that would flock here. I think we have been slowly losing this talent lately. But it just doesn’t seem like any political figure, aside from maybe Lummis, that would even get in the ballpark of that sort of plan. Until then it seems to me that a grass roots, bottom-up movement that sneaks up on them and then forces them to join us due to our scale, is still the route to success. It’s what’s gotten us this far.
When two people engage in a discussion about a matter affecting their fate, we are already talking about politics. Thus, any issue that extends beyond the individual’s fate falls under the umbrella of the concept of politics. Essentially, any conscious communal activity is politics. Politics, in its essence, is consciousness. If someone claims they do not engage in politics, they are denying their own consciousness. Of course, party politics is a different and much narrower concept.
A Marxist state cannot be destroyed from the inside because the Marxist state has direct access to your blood and energy. No one has private property rights, which is the basis of all other rights, which means we have absolutely zero rights. We only have privileges. All privileges can be removed. Privileges are: "Your" life, children, bank accounts, money, pension, stocks, house, guns, land, etc. The United States doesn't have a Bill of Rights. It has a Bill of Privileges. A Marxist state can only be successfully annihilated from the outside. Extreme violence is correct. Violence is the ultimate form of politics. Exterminate the entire US Congress and the executive branch, including staff. The POTUS and the US Congress have all the power in the United States. They are the sole property owners. There is no effective power outside of these two entitites. Concurrently, total physical elimination of the security apparatus beneath the property owners must be implemented. Then extirpate the Marxist state apparatus beneath the property owners from top to bottom. Europeans have to obliterate the European Commission and all its supporters and operators and move on down from there. British, Australian and Canadian plebs have to eradicate the British monarchy and the Marxist state apparatus beneath the sovereign. Marxism is total in scope, so it must be annihilated in its totality. Start fresh. We're moving swiftly in the direction of psychopathic totalitarianism AKA Judeo-Bolshevism 2.0. The clock is ticking.
The only practical option is to "Go where you aretreated best." Russia and Belarus are just some of recent examples how it's impossible to prevent tyranny by voting. They also showed many times, such as in 1917, that violence is all that really matters in politics. Once the bureaucracy has put enough people on the dole, the snowball of socialism is impossible to stop without violence. In United Plantations, that happened a generation or more ago - half don't pay any direct taxes to WARshington and half don't vote. So, a quarter of the voters decide, and winner takes it all in that system. As long as you're physically available to pilfer through "taxes", and unwilling to resist even through civil tax disobedience, your vote doesn't matter.
no matter what, we should always try to act in a manner that reflects the positive change we hope to achieve in our communities. Living in a parallel free zone is quite possible these days. Then we just need to model the transformation we hope to bring about in society through any of our own conduct. Fools or not, that’s the irrelevant part. Just do your thing and make a difference in your own way!
“The state is a weapon” and you would rather use it yourself than let others use it against you. It’s logical. But by wielding the state as a weapon you will allow the state to be strong enough to be a weapon. And if you allow the state to be strong enough to be a weapon against your enemies, you are leaving the state to be strong enough to be used as a weapon against yourself. It’s only a matter of time. “It has happened in every society on earth. It will happen” You are building your own bomb and sooner or later you will be burned by it. If you live by the sword you will die by the sword.
Despite all my other reservations, I would probably vote for Trump but the connections to Palantir are scary. Mass military-grade surveillance is likely coming anyway, but Trump's admin seems like a shortcut. Vance is smarter than anyone the US has seen in that office in a long while - and deeply connected to Thiel.
I agree with what you said, BUT you still have the option to move to a jurisdiction that respects property rights and individual freedoms. You can start building your life there and help ensure that the country doesn’t turn against you like we’ve seen in China, Europe, and maybe soon the US. Sometimes it's better to go where you’re treated best, where conditions are ideal, rather than fighting the mainstream. You can have a much bigger impact when you "plant the seed in fertile soil rather than trying to grow it in the desert." We have El Salvador right now, and I’m working hard with @npub1l57m...645x to get Paraguay to follow the same path so that freedom fighters have more options when things go bad in the west...
And you belive you will change that. By vote. Ok. I rather die in battle. I'm prepared.
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“I’m not political” “Voting is a scam” Allow me to be blunt here. This most recent ECB paper made clear something many of us have known for awhile. When the price of Bitcoin goes up regular people are going to want to kill you. The state is also going to want to kill you. They will be deeply aligned on the solution to their problem being, murdering you. Don’t say it won’t happen. It has happened in every society on earth. It will happen. You’re not political? Grow up Peter Pan, count chocula it’s not Halloween. Be serious. This is big boy shit. The state is a weapon. People are going to want to wield it against you. What’re you gonna do about that? “I’m not political” Yeah well I am. I have to be. I want the world to reflect my values and respect my right to life liberty and property. We have to protect ourselves from what’s coming. And believe me when I say… it is definitely coming.
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I don't like the goverment. I like them small and they should leave us alone. ButvI don't understand your ststement that the state want to murder us. They probaby also want a very large cut from bitcoin profits, but murder? Can you give an example, scenario?