On-boarding people to Nostr now is like: Well, you can use Amethyst, which by now is so complicated only devs can enjoy it but still you won't be able to tag a profile in a note and have to copy the npub over from another app, like Primal! ...which can't do the most basic things like blocking accounts on this bot infested protocol of ours. Oryou get an iPhone to install Damus which they say is slick but that's of course only to be loved by the guys locked in the Apple panopticon but with just some hacky workarounds you get the cool functions too. Then there are web clients that require browser extensions for the login, which of course don't work on your smartphone. Sometimes you see NIP or other Lingua Nostr on options and buttons, then you just have to research on github & wiki do learn what it is or better not click it.... But yeah. Welcome to
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Not for social media and social media apps though. I am aware that a social media PROTOCOL is in its infancy.
I'm talking about UX -of Android Nostr clients specifically but the topic seems to have struck a larger nerve.
Billions have been invested, two decades of research and experiences amassed, trillions of human interactions analysed to create the perfect apps. This wheel is round and won't get any rounder. There is nothing wrong about standing on the shoulders of giants and take all what is good today with social media to enhance the social protocol of tomorrow.
Itβs probably fiatβs fault somehow.
cool rant but umm signer extensions do work on smartphones? Firefox on android with alby or nos2x and nostore on safari iOS?
just in case someone gets mislead by this note
Googles fault
Nobody is mislead, everyone reading this today knows the struggle:
I have to download Firefox, and an extension for it, create an nsec (somewhere) and copy it into the extension, open the nostr clients website, add my relays and keep signing in each time Firefox hibernates or clears cookies/caches? I won't get notifications either.
See, I talked about the "on boarding on Android" experience and you have proven my point. Amethyst or Primal are the two best choices now, I speak about their UX. Webclients on phones are silly.
"Then there are web clients that require browser extensions for the login, which of course don't work on your smartphone".
Sounds pretty misleading to me, given what you just said.
See I get your point, I just don't want somebody reading your note to think that browser extensions don't work on phone since IMO they are the superior method for login compared to pasting your nsec in an app.
@Alby works great on mobile firefox. View Article β
And no one ever mentions nozzle for some reason even though it's the simplest nostr client
First time I hear from it. It's nicely hidden:
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Ah...I suppose it's archived now:
Even nostros, (my first nostr client that I still use) isn't archived.
GitHub
GitHub - dluvian/Nozzle: A lightweight nostr client for Android
A lightweight nostr client for Android. Contribute to dluvian/Nozzle development by creating an account on GitHub.
Solution is simple: don't onboard. Build it and they will come. They will RTFM and they will figure it out.
On-boarding people to Nostr now is like: Well, you can use Amethyst, which by now is so complicated only devs can enjoy it but still you won't be able to tag a profile in a note and have to copy the npub over from another app, like Primal! ...which can't do the most basic things like blocking accounts on this bot infested protocol of ours. Oryou get an iPhone to install Damus which they say is slick but that's of course only to be loved by the guys locked in the Apple panopticon but with just some hacky workarounds you get the cool functions too. Then there are web clients that require browser extensions for the login, which of course don't work on your smartphone. Sometimes you see NIP or other Lingua Nostr on options and buttons, then you just have to research on github & wiki do learn what it is or better not click it.... But yeah. Welcome to
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Can agree with most things you said, but I think amethyst fixed the problem with tagging people.
This is what my search is looking like. Not working, this @Uncle Swan guy sometimes shows up in my search and sometimes not. Same for @olli >> wasn't tagged just now.
Further: I have to set up a specific search relay now? And this banner now shows up on every feature, requesting a different sort of relay?
I have written about the bad on boarding experience to Nostr on Android, this is what I mean. Amethyst is not for on boarding. While Primal is a Bitcoin wallet with social media functions. And for web clients one needs Firefox with extensions that ask for credentials in random intervals (battery saved, cookies cleaned, auto log out...) and send no notifications.
NOW I find the uncle much quicker, the profile shows up after typing UNC now. Because it's cached?
Ah ok, you ment searching for one. Yeah that is buggy. I thought you ment the problem were amethyst crashed while you tagged one with @...
Let's see, I tag you now a lot @npub1jhgm...8u8c @npub1jhgm...8u8c @npub1jhgm...8u8c @npub1jhgm...8u8c @npub1jhgm...8u8c @npub1jhgmf58wdd4mwe4t95ffea079kjxc7f62ncg9gdjmwcrmy0x6x8sfd8u8 @npub1jhgm...8u8c @npub1jhgm...8u8c looks good?!
still the benefits outweigh. We'll get all the perks later.
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It's the true true
Well... I onboarded then made a rookie mistake (not your keys... not your nostr LOL) but I'm back at the beginning again.
Yes it will be a while.... but like anything... those that are in early....well you know how it goes.
If I could sign a message with my keys instead of handing it over that would be nice.
They don't think it be like it is, but it do