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Periodic reminder that your relays see absolutely EVERYTHING you do on Nostr. Regardless of which Client you use. They literally see the app downloading zaps, replies, and reactions when you scroll your posts in real time. So... MAKE SURE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE and that you TRUST THEM with that information. Nostr is just like a browser. The server has to know what you want to see to send it to you, and that gives them the power to track you and see what you are asking for. There is no way around it. I can't stress this enough.

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This will enable social media feed scrolling as a spectator. Twitch for doomscrolling 😂 Jokes aside, good to remind yourself of. Also something to fix for sure. Can’t we just fix this with smokescreen data? The app asks for way more than it actually is looking for? Separating the calls between relays? Maybe not absolute protection but a lot better than nothing?
It is true, but we already agree to make our actions here public. The only concern is about privacy if the relay can get more information associate to it like ip address... And another interesting point, how can you be sure about "who they are" ? A KYC exist for relays ? It is interesting anyway to remind us this point, thank you for that.
Vitor Pamplona's avatar Vitor Pamplona
Periodic reminder that your relays see absolutely EVERYTHING you do on Nostr. Regardless of which Client you use. They literally see the app downloading zaps, replies, and reactions when you scroll your posts in real time. So... MAKE SURE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE and that you TRUST THEM with that information. Nostr is just like a browser. The server has to know what you want to see to send it to you, and that gives them the power to track you and see what you are asking for. There is no way around it. I can't stress this enough.
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Reminder that store owners can see you walking into their store, and can notice how long you stand infront of what products. Their eyeballs can also observe everything you buy at that store. I can't stress this enough
Vitor Pamplona's avatar Vitor Pamplona
Periodic reminder that your relays see absolutely EVERYTHING you do on Nostr. Regardless of which Client you use. They literally see the app downloading zaps, replies, and reactions when you scroll your posts in real time. So... MAKE SURE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE and that you TRUST THEM with that information. Nostr is just like a browser. The server has to know what you want to see to send it to you, and that gives them the power to track you and see what you are asking for. There is no way around it. I can't stress this enough.
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Vitor Pamplona's avatar Vitor Pamplona
Periodic reminder that your relays see absolutely EVERYTHING you do on Nostr. Regardless of which Client you use. They literally see the app downloading zaps, replies, and reactions when you scroll your posts in real time. So... MAKE SURE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE and that you TRUST THEM with that information. Nostr is just like a browser. The server has to know what you want to see to send it to you, and that gives them the power to track you and see what you are asking for. There is no way around it. I can't stress this enough.
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There is no way that we would ever know who is behind relays and even if we do, there is no way of knowing wether or not they do nefarious things with our data. The very nature of Nostr is that everything is open and once posted potentially online forever if you like it or not. Therefore, we must be VERY cautious with what we post, no matter what.
This is important for people to understand.
Vitor Pamplona's avatar Vitor Pamplona
Periodic reminder that your relays see absolutely EVERYTHING you do on Nostr. Regardless of which Client you use. They literally see the app downloading zaps, replies, and reactions when you scroll your posts in real time. So... MAKE SURE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE and that you TRUST THEM with that information. Nostr is just like a browser. The server has to know what you want to see to send it to you, and that gives them the power to track you and see what you are asking for. There is no way around it. I can't stress this enough.
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It's not just the relays you use. It's ALL relays that are publicly writeable. If you care about privacy, use a VPN or TOR.
Vitor Pamplona's avatar Vitor Pamplona
Periodic reminder that your relays see absolutely EVERYTHING you do on Nostr. Regardless of which Client you use. They literally see the app downloading zaps, replies, and reactions when you scroll your posts in real time. So... MAKE SURE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE and that you TRUST THEM with that information. Nostr is just like a browser. The server has to know what you want to see to send it to you, and that gives them the power to track you and see what you are asking for. There is no way around it. I can't stress this enough.
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What Vitor is pointing out here is extremely important, BUT it is very easy to misinterpret it as: "RELAYS ARE TRACKING YOUR NPUB AGAINST EVERY QUERY YOU MAKE" which is just false, since they can't. They can however see every write that you do. So can everyone else, but they can also associate your IP to it. So use a VPN. Now what this post is hinting at is that relays CAN do meta analysis to figure out who is querying these posts(by looking at follow lists and author filters) or which IP is browsing what content, so they can create a profile to some degree. Which is why you SHOULD connect to trusted relays. Just pointing out the hidden details so people don't get the wrong ideas from it.
Vitor Pamplona's avatar Vitor Pamplona
Periodic reminder that your relays see absolutely EVERYTHING you do on Nostr. Regardless of which Client you use. They literally see the app downloading zaps, replies, and reactions when you scroll your posts in real time. So... MAKE SURE TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE and that you TRUST THEM with that information. Nostr is just like a browser. The server has to know what you want to see to send it to you, and that gives them the power to track you and see what you are asking for. There is no way around it. I can't stress this enough.
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