Dear nostr,
For all those posting "free samourai", you are just virtue signaling a dead cause.
They pleaded guilty, is game over !
If they were real freedom fighters will never plead guilty and will "play" the court in other way, not with pussy lawyers.
I suggest to watch the old movie "Interstate 60" and see what am I talking about. here is a scene of how to play the court to defend your position.
Watch the entire movie so you will understand why they used metaphorically a bomb-vest in the movie...
You never plead in a court, guilty or not guilty, never plead.
Pleading means you renounce to all your rights, you are a garbage, a slave and they can do whatever they want with you.
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I've been saying the same thing!
Had these devs understood what it meant to be a true Samurai, not LARPing as warriors for freedom, they would NEVER "plea" for mercy. Rather than xompromise their honor by pleading to a victimless crime they didn't even commit they would've fell own their own sword. Death before dishonor is part of the Way of the Samurai.
Family or not, they should've recognized that death was a possible, even likely, outcome for having built tools that undermine the Nanny State's power. A real Samurai, not a LARP, would commit seppuku before pleading before the crown!
Yeah this is another POV that we can take... honor.
nostr:nprofile1qqs0nt9skq6vfsgh06v979rrnuchau87mmnk2lqxpv2xaeusqfp30mqppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qyghwumn8ghj7mn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujumn0wd68ytnzv9hxgtc7s6retis not wrong here. He may be coming across somewhat crude and unempathetic, maybe but what he is saying is true.
Every sucessful revolution, movement displacement, whatever you want to call it always required martyrs, without them there is no actualized subconscious affirmation (signal) of what is right to fight for and what isn't.
I also have daughters and think about what I would do almost on a daily basis and the truth is I don't know however, I do know that by taking a plea and assuring my time to spend with them for their "well being" feels good and plausible, deep down I'll know that what I did was show them an example of how to bow down to authoriry and reveal how your principles, beliefs and word can be broken, by an agressor no doubt.
If I chose to "fight" and ended up in jail as a result, I would have shown them that no matter what, all you are in life is your beliefs and principles and that that is worth fighting and defending even to the death. That might be enough to set them up to be strong humans that are difficult to govern as well as potentially inspiring them to take on and continue the onerous task of fighting until WE WIN! That being said, history is littered with the bodies of martyrs that died for causes that required only 1% of the blood spilled but this seems to be the way the universe demands it.
It's a tough choice but in the end, true heroes, true martyrs are very rare and even more rare in 21st century society.
Bill and Keonne owe nothing to no one and only need to answer to themselves in the mirror of life.
P.S. Darth is right in that by pleading guilty the precedent was set and that battle is over. Devs are targets now and the only way to stop that is to win and dearm the system of its abilities by taking power and nullifying these laws and precedents. However long that will take.
Its a race, always has been!
It's easy for someone like Darth to say from the safety of his computer screen that someone else should've risked decades of their life to be a "martyr". No, Darth isn't right about setting precedent either since it was a guilty plea.
My quote post on my alt says it succinctly.
Darth is the endgame for those who either only joined Bitcoin in the last five years (earlier even), or were in the scene for so long that they became reduced to rabid, uncritical NGU hypemen that idolize those like Rorschach while possessing none of Walter's intelligence.
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You think they should have taken legal advice from a movie?
You have no idea what you're up against.
You are too stupid to understand what I meant with giving that example.
With all due respect, so-called sovereign citizens who play these tricks in court are just asking for trouble. While I believe in pointing out the failures and wrongdoings of the state, it's better to ignore their crapola by keeping shit to yourself and a small community, I think. There are entire divisions in major police departments devoted to tracking and harassing these folks who identify as "sovereign," and it's always going to be the law's word against theirs. Whether or not we are right as a matter of principle, does not matter to the state and her flying monkeys.
I don't have experience in courtroom antics such as this, but I do prefer to live by the rule of "never ask permission, and apologize later". 

Please stop saying that stupid term as "sovereign citizen". If you use that word you look like a moron that doesn't know anything about what the word citizen or sovereign means.
You cannot be citizen and sovereign. That is an oxymoron.
Read and learn:
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The Courts
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Jurisdiction is the Key
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I'm NOT using it for myself
I'm not a moron, I'm an anarchist. Pleas re-read what I wrote.
Everything I have ever seen you post not only makes you look like a moron, but proves it beyond a doubt.
Rich people dont understand the courts. Hahaha 1 man showed to court dates yall all fake drifters
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As someone who has actually had to deal with “the men with guns” coming for you, I can say there is no easy way out. Everything you *think* you will do in this situation is gone when your life is actually on the line; I guarantee there are very few who would put up the middle finger when the time finally comes.
They literally do not give a shit what you say, or even what you are accused of or why. Possibly they don’t even know. All they know is that their boss, or more likely, someone higher up behind the curtain is asking for you. Asked for your name. Your body. Your family.
Call yourself citizen, or don’t, but they will come. And they will use force.
My family made the decision to take our private keys and leave. We are not fighters. And I refused to plea. Refused to participate. Refused to play their games.
Does this make me ‘sovereign’ or just another loser? The rules are written by someone else, and no one gets to opt in or out. When they want you, they will come for you.
The only thing you can do is be prepared to give up everything—or give them what they want.
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You are a faggot, kill yourself.
Just more ancap wet dream nonsense out of Bitcoiners
You obviously never faced a long prison sentence. Larping faggot
You would’ve plead guilty too.
They took the 4 to avoid 20. No beating a fed indictment.
The truth does hurt and the truth is you would probably fold like a cheap lawn chair if you were faced with 30+ years.
It’s easy to say how you would act when you in your easy chair at home pretending to be a Star Wars villain but when shit hits the fan people don’t act the way they say they will.
Talk is cheap as they say.
I am no the one that plead guilty. Why do you judge me ?
My judgement doesn’t come with 30+ years behind bars you’ll be ok sunshine.
I think you do not understand the words "plead guilty".
I do, they took a 100% chance of 5 years in prison to avoid a 90%+ chance of 30+. They did what they had to do to guarantee they’d see their family outside of prison again. It was a shit deal but 30 years behind bars is basically a death sentence for a middle aged man.
pleading guilty = coward, no balls to defend
Again talk is cheap you sound tough and brave guy but the reality is if you were faced with the same you’d most like sing like a canary. Have you ever been arrested and face serious time in prison how do you know you’d be a big strong man and not a coward? I guess I’ll just have to talk your word for it you are. For the record your character Darth is on the side of the empire not the rebellion.
It's not a dead cause. Trump declared the war over. Let's see if he's serious. They plead before that declaration. It is worth seeking a pardon. Ross is free now due to pardon.
Try facing an actual court, not a pretend hollywood court, before you tell us what you think someone's supposed to do in a court or whether we are supposed to seek pardon or not.
A "sovereign citizen"'s army of one is no match for even the smallest county bailiff's army.
Not being negative or anything, but just confused on what your actual steps would be. Could you please share?
First you need to read and understand what are the courts and how to treat them
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The Courts
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and here another example
Thank you!
I wonder if the market structure bill/clarity act will correct this? Not for their case, but for the future.
