I think itβs fair to say that we broke new ground with our iOS remote signer. People have been trying to build something like this for a long time (even predating Nostr) and afaik all those attempts have been shut down by Apple. Some of our well informed users are concerned that our implementation breaks Appleβs rules and that Primal might get banned from the App Store. Iβll share our experience here so that other builders can benefit from it.
First and foremost: we didnβt try to sneak this feature in. We provided a detailed explanation to the app store review team outlining exactly what we are doing and how. The technical tldr is: the only way to keep your iOS app running in the background is to play sound or dox user location. There is a history of developers trying to hack their way in by playing silent audio tracks or attempting to trick the reviewers (and confuse the users) in other ways.
The key to our success was that we actually built a polished ambient sound feature for our signer. Some users might actually want ambient sound for their remote sessions, so we took great care to pick the appropriate sounds and build polished UI that enables users to control those sounds via the dynamic island or the live activity UI on the lock screen. We also designed an informative sound opt in screen at the beginning of the session. This is important: the user is fully informed and totally in control every step of the way. I am not sure, but it might be helpful that Primal was already a multimedia app so this feature doesnβt feel out of place.
In any case, thatβs how we did it; hope it helps other builders. π«‘
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can i generate a connection string to paste into an app rather than scan or paste a string into primal?
Yes, click the "Use keyboard instead" button on the scan screen.
To clarify, we don't yet support generating the bunker:// string that you can paste into the remote app
is there a uri scheme or something that apps should be using to "trigger" the device's signer? i think this is a great feature, but in reality a lot of people are just trying to use another nostr app on the same device so the qr scanner and even the keyboard option feel a bit clunky and not the best ux flow for such a scenario
Yes, you can easily trigger the signer by using the standard nostrconnect:// uri scheme. That's what a "Login with Nostr" button should do.
We even added support for a convenient "callback" parameter, so Primal will redirect back to your app immediately after establishing the remote connection. If it's a browser app, simply use callback=https://[your_app_login_progress_page] to get redirected back to your app.
@Derek Ross implemented this flow for some of his web apps; it works great. Derek, maybe you could share a quick video of this in action?
cool, if you know of any web or ios apps that work this way id like to test π¬
ooook. as long as ios recognizes the qr it allows you to tap it to switch to primal. that is slick. thanks!
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This looks incredible. Huge jump for my Nostr experience. Thank you and congrats on pushing the update
Thank you, this is very helpful. Iβm also planning to submit Aegis - nostr signer to the App Store. Aegis also uses background audio playback to keep the app alive.
Big respect π«Thanks for sharing the journey and the lessons. Appreciate the transparency and care you put into this ππ«‘
How will this figure with the news of IOF working at Apple, Google, Meta, etc..
Does this give them access to the code, that they can then use to reverse engineer and break their way into #Nostr sign-ins?
Could that be a motivation for allowing this feature? #GenuineQuestions π #FreedomTech

