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I just came across an article not long ago that I bookmarked to read about this theory. We seem to getting there.. if not already there.

I'm bullish on nostr's ability to hold back the hoard.

I am too. I'm willing to pay for it.

I'm hosting my own relays ( 🤓 ) and see almost zero spam, but it's non-trivial. We need more turnkey, consumer-friendly hosts.

The best solution to protect against this is arranging a videocall with people you follow or going further and only follow people you know in person. Would be extreme. But it is a functional Fallback for this scenario coming true.

I enjoy my anonymity online. Though I don't mind coffee with people here IRL.

They follow me.

Nostr requires a method of effective voluntary physical removal. Apps in the future will have various forms of vetting processes to determine which npubs are worth your attention. This is inevitable. Nostr itself is the best social media protocol by far. This isn't a nostr problem. This is a universal problem.

So then can you block them to keep them from making comments? Seems annoying but better than bot overload.

Voluntary removal is better anyway. Quite honestly no one needs social media. I will be voluntarily removing myself again soon for months at a time.

Opinions like this make you one of my favorite follows.

You’re not wrong - I gave up on FB years ago after a political convention went south. Didn’t do anything for years until I kept hearing about Bitcoin Twitter and dusted off the old account. Soon after Nostr was showing up on my feed so I joined and ditched the dead bird. You have to make social media work for you.

I will be removing myself, at some point, as well. At least, from the nostr social media clients. I think I'll be more than happy sticking with Simplex during that leave of absence.

Last year I was off for about 5-6 months. Out there in the world just living. I don't feel that important that id announce it. I'll disappear like usual.

I think the problem is clear and most just can't admit to it, nostr users are no exclusion: they're addicted to the attention that they receive online and it's played too large a role in their gathering of self-esteem. Personally, I don't believe the lack of an algorithm would've ever had a chance to change this.

Can I ask you a question?

Ya why not 😄

💯💯💯💯 (and also very guilty of it).

I've had some sizable breaks. I just had a 1month break. I might be due for a longer one. I love nostr, but it's too tempting to use it as a distraction/crutch for social interaction. When I'm on a break, I stay subscribed to nostr podcasts. That way, I stay up to date, but my screentime plummets (for the better)

Were you a heavy legacy social media user before nostr and, if you were, are individuals' behavior significantly different?

Lol why should strangers opinions matter?!

I honestly don't know - probably just a natural reaction to having a device in our hands where you can instantly broadcast every thought, feeling, achievement, idea to a virtual room full of people 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

I was only on Twitter but I stuck to the car community that once existed there. 2015-2017 but I observed keenly as I do. I was on/off Fedi in 2018-2023 now I'm on/off here. On twitter there were/are a lot of angry and argumentative people. Fedi has a lot of liberal leftist trash with the same angry soul sucking energy twitter people who migrated there. Nostr behaviours are no different. There will always be addicts. Some probably live here. Some brought their legacy attitudes here. Some are undergoing relapses that they can't stop talking about legacy. I will say from my encounters, people here is capable of being a twat.. but the quality of the people are different. Bit more understanding, less fucks given, perhaps more social media experienced and better at the helm when they have more control over it.

Give me another hit!

I'm not an always happy not.

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Butt

Those have purpose so I think they're fine. It's the engaging like a human ones that are worrisome.

I got you. Like those trying to look real.

Yes

WoT is a flawed system, as are humans also, your WoT is never perfectly aligned with your interests, and removing certain people because they follow 1 bot or person you don’t like does not fix the problem but create an echo chamber nostr has a lot of data available, why not use it

automated content classification (you can amplify topics you normally see less to eliminate echo chambers) and ignore certain topics (too much bitcoin talk? filter the “lower quality” posts) content quality classification also, zaps could be used. pay a 500 sat or so fee once and prove you are human

When I first heard of wot I thought it was limiting so I didn't really consider it until now. It isn't perfect but maybe a notch better than public and free.

a very little amount

Maby the solution is to mute the bot who is problematic instead of the person who follows the bot.

There's quite a lot of 'follow everyone you see/replies to you' advice on nostr, which I think is a terrible idea and probe aly (?) messes WoT. As always I blame Derek Ross (jkjk love you Derek)

You mean KYC. Hard pass.

KYC has many problems. It should work similarly to proof of work but I don't know how to technically do it.

Maybe that is the answer to attach pow to npub of some cost and then you don't care much anymore whether it is a bot or not because there will be very few boys with higher pow attached

They do have a king who needs servants over there.

I am making this a reality. This is my future.

Then, you and I, are walking the same path.

this happens all the time. So annoying. Notifications are hard enough to follow... The beauty of the open protocol though, is I assume, given enough time and capital, someone will create a tool to get rid of them

I don't care for a world of AI everywhere.