Depends probably on their community they are surrounded. I think for most learning about Bitcoin and totally investing is a slow process.
But I prefer slow and stady, than frantic and being hit with bad first experiences before understanding anything.
So you actually do have no apps of any bank at all? I mean it is great for everyone, who has this level of βonly open source appsβ.
Congrats to you.
As I mentioned in an other comment I think in graphene apps can not scan other apps, when βnative code debuggingβ is disabled for an app in advanced exploit protection.
No issue on my device with regards HSBC UK accounts. I have F-Droid installed most of the apps on this device, including Bitwarden, and received no alert on opening the app.
This is fucking nonsense. I had to talk to chase to unblock my account which was blocked as I sent money to my wife on Zelle. They asked if I was expecting anything in return. I said THANKYOU wouldβve been nice. π
It's not because it's Bitwarden, it's because an app has been installed from a source other than the Play Store, and thus hasn't been audited by Google and installed with the verification of Play Protect. HSBC doesn't want apps that aren't Play Protect-certified installed on the device. Android is merely showing the user a list of all such apps, so that they know what to uninstall if they wish to comply with HSBC's mandate. The HSBC app doesn't know what the offending apps are, merely that at least one offending apps is installed. Install Bitwarden directly from the Play Store rather than another source, and the HSBC app won't complain.
Yes, it's still utterly stupid, especially when you consider the fact that the same banks are willing to let customers access and manage their accounts in any web browser, which is much less secure. No, the UK banks won't budge on this, they've been doing it for over 10 years in various forms, it's a continuous cat-and-mouse game.
The extra (nominal) security guarantee afforded by Play Protect is not a requirement for EU PSD2 SCA authenticator app compliance, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone in HSBC's liability/cybersecurity department advised them to implement this for some misguided reason. That said, I'm running Android 14 on a non-rooted device with several apps installed from sources other than the Play Store (including Bitwarden from F-Droid), and all of my UK banking apps (of which I have 12, as I have accounts with almost every bank that operates in the UK, though HSBC is notably not one of them) function just fine. Suffice it to say that if First Direct (an online-only subsidiary of HSBC UK that is routinely ranked as the top bank nationally for customer service) implements this and refuses to revert, I'm closing my accounts with them.
HSBC Bank had a commercial whith the slogan "Your DNA will be your fingerprint" !
Why are u supprting those dark occult agenda vampires ?
I would never !
It's called:
I N T E G R I T Y
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"We see you've downloaded a password manager. Given our policy to only allow 5 alphanumeric character passwords that we store unsalted on an AS400, this is in breach of our digital systems usage policy."
Maby the actual best thing is to report this intrusion to the Bank. I am sure there are employees, which are actually intrested in happy costumers π
In GrapheneOS I think one can restrict apps from being able to see other apps, with the hardened exploit protection βnative code debuggingβ
Please correct when I am wrong @Final
Android still allows apps to detect what other apps are installed? That's as much an OS problem as an app problem, assuming you didn't have to consent to some kind of device management profile first.
It's not unreasonable that an app developer would flag a sideloaded version of a password manager. It likely points to problems far more often than it points to people enacting extra-strong security controls or doing legitimate local builds. But it's not reasonable if the OS enables this capability by default.