Your chat profile/identity: a tar file. Your social web app: a zip file.

Chatmail

Chatmail provides FOSS infrastructure for interoperable, secure, speedy and reliable end-to-end encrypted messaging. Check out clients as Arcane C...

and

webxdc - web apps shared in a chat

no logins, no coins, no platforms 🎉

are spearheading ever new and more fun ways to deny power to servers and platform billionaires. Unlike classic email servers, #chatmail relays do not store user identities which solely live on end-user devices.There also is no encrypted value on the server like with Proton Mail or Signal. There are only relays, endless federating networks of relays to onboard safely :)

#chatmail relays really are the dumbest messaging servers in town, but having fun with each other 😂

chatmail relay documentation

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chaos.social

The Final Straw Radio (@thefinalstrawradio@chaos.social)

Attached: 1 image Our chat with Mary & Fanny, two independent technologists, on contingency for "what if Signal were blocked in the US?" and their...

Another nice surprise! A careful discussion and appreciation of our almost 8-year long running efforts, and its #deltachat and #chatmail artifacts. The "Signal contingency plan" comes complete with podcast, website and zine! View quoted note →

A few things #deltachat apps are doing positively different from #Signal apps - easiest onboarding ever; not depending on phone numbers or other private data - support for multiple chat profiles/identities - decentralized servers, not depending on US-based GAFAM etc. - migration from one app/platform to any other - easy multi-device support for any chat profile - developers have chances to get their PRs merged :) - mini-apps support via

webxdc - web apps shared in a chat

no logins, no coins, no platforms 🎉

anything missing?

On the occasion of SimpleX and Session getting cryptocoin-donations/funding ... we won't hide that most delta contributors are pretty skeptical of cryptocoin-circles. Exhibit 1: #Webxdc apps - mini apps that anyone can whip up -- and the declared motto still on the

webxdc - web apps shared in a chat

no logins, no coins, no platforms 🎉

web page since inception mid 2022: No logins, no coins, no platforms ... and this year, January 23rd, we added "no billionaires" to the growing list of things deserving a "no" :)

Delta Chat: Replacing billionairish platforms with ZIP files

How can we evolve and deploy web apps without allowing developers or operators to become a “billionaire in the middle”? There are many ways to ...

Well, maybe we need to be more clear what we are trying to do: #deltachat apps are a cross-platform private messenger suite, that aims to provide a consistent UX/UI for users with lots of experience using WhatsApp and Signal. Telegram has good fast UX but is hardly a private messenger (it has a central cleartext database of everyone and everything). Matrix and XMPP are well-esteemed fellows in federated messaging, but so far didn't grow a WA/Signal-level cross-platform messaging UX. YMMV

For those who used all three of Whatsapp, Signal and Delta Chat in multi-device mode: Which messenger provides the best multi-device setup and handling for users (UX)? (question spans setting up a second/linked device, as well as migrating to new device, as well as quality of multi-device synchronizing/bugfree-ness -- all subjectively weighted by each voter according to their subjective experiences)

Signal just released a "poll" feature with great fanfare, while all #deltachat apps already integrated a full suite of chat-shared apps, checklists, polls, shopping lists, calendar, editor + tons of games. Better, anyone can create new apps, eg as github/codeberg forks from existing apps, and post it to their chats for instant deployment. No need to ask for permission, register an account, and no hosting or DNS: actually "server-less" and fully end-to-end encrypted :)

webxdc apps

Any data that is collected on servers will eventually leak or be abused otherwise. By design, no one can enumerate #deltachat profiles which are private and not published on any server. Conversely, #chatmail relays do not see or collect private data or metadata. But wait, there is more :) We are currently evolving end-to-end security protocols and UX to **survive an attacker fully taking over a server**. The attacker shall not even be able to message users, let alone impersonate anyone.